RA Dickey Cy Young WINNER

Well, we didn’t win much this season but RA Dickey defied the odds and took home the NL Cy Young Award for best pitcher in the league.

It’s a rare feat for a Cy Young to be awarded to a pitcher on a crappy second division team like the Mets. To me Steve Carlton was the poster boy for this feat as he won his 1st Cy Young in ‘72 despite playing for a last place Phillies team that lost 97 games.

The Mets weren’t quite that bad but it’s still a tremendous feat for RA to pull off. I guess playing in NY helped his cause since his story was much more out there than it would have been if he were playing in KC but on the flip side I wonder if there’s any backlash towards the inept Mets in the baseball writers voting committee.

I guess the story of RA was just too good to be ignored. The guy pulled himself off the scrap heap after sputtering out in the Majors by learning a knuckler and coming all the way back to dominate and wear the greatest pitching crown there is.

Tremendous to see a knuckle baller take home a Cy Young because it’s a victory shared by all knucklers. These chosen few men who threw it in the bigs are a tight fraternity and I’m sure they’re all celebrating tonight.

I have to wonder how many knuckleballers are there in the Minors? I mean how many guys toil with that pitch and never solve it? You never hear about a promising minor leaguer who throws this junk pitch. I guenot a knuckle-baller isn’t really a buzz-worthy prospect because the guys throwing it have generally turned to the knuckle ball as a last resort when they couldn’t get guys out with their normal stuff. 

I wouldn’t be surprised if a new generation of pitchers begin toying with the knuckle ball at a much younger age now.

44 Responses to “RA Dickey Cy Young WINNER”

  1. the dude formerly known as bill l.he Says:

    Very glad to see R.A. get this award. He deserves it. Now we fans wait to see what happens next.

  2. OptimistBlondiesJake Says:

    Happy for Dickey. Seems like one of the best guys in baseball. Too bad DW and Dickey play for one of the most inept franchises in sports.

    Great season despite not great team. However, not a rare feat recently. It’s 5th time in last 5 years CY award to pitcher on losing team (Tim Lincecum and Cliff Lee 2008, Zack Greinke 2009, Felix Hernandez 2010).

  3. the dude formerly known as bill l. Says:

    I’ve got my Nerf N Sports Curve Pitch baseball out of the kid’s room and you wouldn’t believe the motion I can get on it. Maybe, even at 54, it’s not too late for me to be the next great success story. R.A. Dickey gives hope to us all. And I know I could retire Jason Bay with this pitch.

  4. foxster Says:

    hip hip hurrah for RA Dickey. he did it all, capping it off with a very deserved Cy Young Award. perhsaps the best thing about his dream season is that it couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.

    one very disturbing item appeared in the Newark Star Ledger Sports section this morning. specualtion that perhaps RA had pitched his last game for the Mets and stood a very good chance of being traded before the 2013 season start. i won’t add a comment to this.

  5. OptimistBlondiesJake Says:

    foxster, have you been hibernating for winter? That speculation has been going on for weeks.

  6. foxster Says:

    sorry, but i haven’t paid too much attention to the base ball scene since the DamnYankees were swept in the AL playoffs. however, with the rotten weather and power problems, here in NJ, hibernation might be a good idea.

  7. OptimistBlondiesJake Says:

    Hope it gets better soon!

  8. JoMama Says:

    It would just like the Mets to trade Dickey. RA4CY worked! Oh and how bout them Knickerbockers?

  9. the dude formerly known as bill l. Says:

    Nothing new in Mets land for going on two weeks……….

  10. Met_Maven Says:

    From the SNY website:

    “the Mets offered Wright a six-year, $100 million contract extension on Monday, according to major-league sources. However, Wright prefers a deal of seven years or longer, sources say.”

  11. Lord Charles Says:

    ^Now up to 7 years, making it basically a foregone conclusion that he will retire as a Met.


  12. the dude formerly known as bill l. Says:

    That would be great news!

  13. Lord Charles Says:

    I agree. I get that there is inherent risk in a long contract, but there is much less so with Wright than there would have been with Reyes, and at some point, one has to consider the value to the organization that a “lifer” like Wright can bring. IMO, the upside is larger than the risk.

  14. OptimistBlondiesJake Says:

    Agree worth it. And I still believe this team can win WC in 2013 by adding two solid RH OF bats.

    HOWEVER, if they’re not going to add bats to make the team competitive NOW, they should trade Dickey for as much as they can get. No sense wasting a valuable commodity.

  15. Lord Charles Says:

    I am all for trading Dickey, regardless. I think the Mets could likely get more for him than he will actually be worth over the next couple of years, and more importantly, I think the Mets will be able to get more out of their young pitchers than Dickey will be able to provide over the next couple of years.

    Trade Dickey for a bat, and let Harvey and Wheeler off their leashes early next season, and I think the Mets are better off than they would be if they keep RA.

  16. the dude formerly known as bill l. Says:

    OBJ: you know those puzzlers where you can only move three matchsticks to make a new number or word or whatever. Well, if you could take your RH OF and just slide the H over one position, then we could give the Mets two HOF outfielders for next year, and then, I agree, we’d be all set for at least the WC. Come on, Wilpons, let’s get it done!!!

  17. Florida Met Fan Rich Says:

    Trade David Wright right now at the Winter Meetings. The mets have just gotten rid of a bunch of “Bad Multi Year Contracts”!

    We are not going to sign him AND ADD two more free agents, so we can finish in 4th place (see Marlins) with or without him.

    Would rather get some youg pitchers and outfield propects and set us up for 2014 and beyond!

    The longer he stays as a Mets the lowere his trade value becomes!


  18. OptimistBlondiesJake Says:

    FMFR, do you know how difficult it is to find a 3B like Wright? Just to refresh, last year he was…

    2nd in OB%
    2nd in 2Bs
    2nd in BBs
    3rd in HITS
    4th in OPS
    4th in BA
    4th in SBs
    5th in SLG%
    6th in RUNS
    6th in RBIs
    10th in HRs

    Outside of Miguel Cabrera, there is no better RH hitting 3B in MLB. Yes, the Mets could trade him for prospects, but then how will they fill the void at 3B for the next five years?

    I wouldn’t deal Wright with the way the team is currently constituted.

    Dickey, while I would hate to see him go, makes much more sense. Still, I’d much rather keep him and add a couple of RH OF bats.

  19. Florida Met Fan Rich Says:

    B.J. I know Wright is a great player. He is not the problem. The problem is after paying him, the Mets are NOT going to go and get the “couple of RH OF Bats”

    We will end up being like the Twins, giving Mauer all the money and no other players to support him.

  20. the dude formerly known as bill l. Says:

    Sounds like a done deal! Thanks, Mets. Now let’s go shopping!

  21. Lord Charles Says:

    Correct me if I am wrong, but is this the first time in Mets history (or at least since Free Agency has existed) that they will have signed one of their homegrown stars through (what should be) the end of his career?

  22. OptimistBlondiesJake Says:

    FMFR, the Mets will add another bat or two, if not this year, then next. Just watch. Bay and Johan’s $ comes off the books after this year.

    tdfkabl, loved the matchstick idea. And yes, time to get outfielders. Bourn would be nice fit in center if they also add power RH OF in left.

    LC, how many homegrown stars has this been a possibility with prior to Wright and Reyes? Strawberry left via FA, can’t remember what happened with Doc but assume the same. Who else was there?

  23. Lord Charles Says:

    Yeah, that’s a good (and somewhat depressing) point. Guess I’m still scarred enough by the Strawberry decision to have a false sense of how many times it’s happened.

    As for the deal, the fact that they got it done before the winter meetings is huge because it instantly gives to potential FAs that the Mets are actually willing and able to spend some money. Plus, it looks like it is backloaded enough that it may even save the Mets money next year.

  24. Lord Charles Says:


    “…it instantly gives the impression to potential FAs…”

  25. Lord Charles Says:

    Interesting read:


  26. OptimistBlondiesJake Says:

    Nice to read that LC. Here’s what I posted there:

    The contract sounds like a solid deal, with potential for disaster, but that always exists, there are no guarantees. Combined with the effect it may have of helping Mets attract more fans, more FAs, more respect increases likelihood of good deal. And even if he’s not as good in later years but team is better, that wouldn’t make it a bad deal.

    I know as Mets fans we are trained to expect the worst, but this deal is the right decision right now based on the evidence we currently have available. Hindsight is 20/20 but it’s hard to argue this is a bad move, considering the alternative would likely be losing Wright as a free agent.

  27. rj Says:

    It was the Wright thing to do!

  28. Cowcrusher Says:

    Sorry, everytime anyone mentions “prospects”…I can’t help but hear WFAN’s Steve Somers’ voice exclaming “Prozz-spekts?!!” in my head…. Thanks, Sandy ;)

  29. the dude formerly known as bill l. Says:

    Jeez. Nats sign Haren for one year deal. I would have loved for the Mets to have done that. It would be nice if the ownership had some money, wouldn’t it?

  30. OptimistBlondiesJake Says:

    I think we’re about to be pleasantly surprised. Wouldn’t shock me if deal for OF rumor turns into either Jacoby Ellsbury or Justin Upton. Jeffy said team will be upping payroll for 2013 and has flexibility in 2014.

  31. Matt the Met Fan Says:

    I’m sure it’s just postering but I can’t understand the “devalue” people outside of Met fans put on RA Dickey? Trick pitch? who cares? Niekro Wilhelm other HOFers (who didn’t need steroids btw) pitched well into their 40’s and he obviously throws a tighter knuckleball with control … he eats up innings .. any team would love to have him as a #1 or even a great #2

    Now the Yankees give Pettitte $12 M per for 2 years and he won all of what ? 5 games?? (or something like that)

    Even Alderson can’t praise him or the Wilponzi’s will have to pay the $15M per year he deserves .. I’m sure this could go 2 ways .. we keep him, dont resign, trade him in July or let him walk for another great draft pick - like we did with Reyes .. or some team steps up after Greinke (btw, I’d rather have Dickey than Greinke) and others are signed. OR once the market shakes out maybe Optimist Blondie Jake (btw who kidnapped/took Pessimistic Blondie Jake? ) might be right and we can get a corner OF or real Catcher ..

    I for one am fine with watching this class act pitch in a Met unifrom for the next 3 years - and maybe beyond…

  32. Matt the Met Fan Says:

    since I am on a roll .. can’t MLB move the Winter Meetings? I remember as a kid all the big names that got traded during these meetings.. Lee May, Morgan, Gaylord Perry etc .. the Non tendered just happened.. FA just started their process.. why would a GM do anything in December? .. wait till Feb for it all to shake out .. of course the Mets hardly made those types of trades but it still made you warm in December thinking about baseball and filling out hypothetical lineups while it’s freezing out.. or has global warming stopped that too??

    oh and I can’t wait to see Polanco or some other stiff playing 3B on opening day for the Yankees !! LOL .. Nice moves “CASH” man .. you have a $230M payroll and no 3B .. poor Yankee fans

  33. PessimistBlondiesJake Says:

    MtMF, I’m too busy hating the NY Jets and Michigan Wolverines offensive coordinators to have anything but optimism for the Mets!

  34. OptimistBlondiesJake Says:

    Pay no attention to that cranky bastard. I’m the real BlondiesJake!

  35. OptimistBlondiesJake Says:

    So the Royals traded the best RH power hitting OF prospect in the game plus some other big time prospects to acquire James Shields and Wade Davis. I wonder why the Mets didn’t deal Dickey and Niese for the same. If I was the Royals, that would’ve been the better deal. As a Mets fan, it would stink to lose those guys, but here was the big chance to get some top prospects on the cusp of making the bigs. Bummer. Still optimistic but thinking Mets missed a big chance.

  36. the dude formerly known as bill l.he Says:

    I’ve no doubt Dickey +Niese could have netted you Myers, but that’s a hell of a price to pay for potential. If he was that “can’t-miss” it’s hard to imagine KC giving up on him.

  37. OptimistBlondiesJake Says:

    Dayton Moore can’t wait for Myers and the others to develop, he’ll be fired before that. So he traded them for pitchers that aren’t good enough to make the Royals true contenders, which means he’ll get fired anyway and he ruined the Royals leverage and farm system in the process.

  38. the dude formerly known as bill l. Says:

    So tomorrow will be one month since the site updated….
    Just saying. Are we still in business, here? Hope all is well, Adam.

  39. Matt the Met Fan Says:

    Next headline for BMF??


  40. Lord Charles Says:

    ^Yep, but it least it looks like the Mets are going to get their starting C and middle of the order bat for the next decade out of the deal.

  41. Lord Charles Says:

    Forgot to post…


  42. foxster Says:

    Hail & Farewell RA. I only hope that whatever team you end up on turns out to be a genuine contender, with an organization that gives you the respect you earned and are due. hopefully you’ll have a Championship Ring at the end of another great season

  43. rj Says:

    This trade was the best trade ever in a very long time. Two great prospects for a 39 year old trick ball pitcher..I still can’t believe this organization pulled this off..Now I do love RA but you have to make this trade.. Have to! Anyone who thinks otherwise is not thinking about the future of this organization. I don’t want to win now I want to win for the next 15-20 years and the only way youre going to do that is to make deals like this which is unheard of in MLB these days..

  44. Met_Maven Says:

    Love this trade. I hate to see RA go, but we weren’t going to win with him here the next 2 - 3 years and if we trade him then, we’d get nothing in return. This lays the foundation for a winning team in the very near future. For all the bashing Alderson has received over his tenure here, this should get him a few apologies.

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