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BMF Happy Alou Got Hurt!
Because at least now Omar and Willie are forced to deal with the fact that Moises Alou isn’t the answer to anything. The sooner everyone comes to terms with that the better.
In my estimation it’s irrational thinking to expect the guy to play more than 50 games. If he actually stays healthy for a couple of weeks here and there than maybe the signing isn’t a complete disaster. Maybe we’ll get super lucky timing he’ll deliver a couple big hits in October… but that’s almost a fantasy at this point isn’t it???
Right now we need to find a way to win baseball games without Moises Alou.
Yo, Angel Pagan and Fernando Martinez – it looks like youze cats just got the chance of a lifetime cuz the Mets need an everyday left fielder ASAP!!!
… and there maybe be an opening in right too.
I really don’t want to lose any more prospects so we need to address this from within.
Quite Frankly, “The dude formerly known as Bill L.” said it perfectly,
“I wonder, if we approach the Nats in the right way, if they would consider taking our catcher, who’s supposedly a hell of a good glove man, and our right fielder, who supposedly plays a good left, in exchange for one of their outfielders, a kid by the name of Lastings Milledge.
Just a thought. I mean, it’s a steal for them really–two for the price of one. And with Milledge’s attitude, I’m sure they’d figure themselves lucky to be rid of him. They may want to throw in their injured catcher PLD into the mix as well”
BMF couldn’t have said it better myself.
Equally entertaining was this rant from Lippy,
“In all fairness to Minaya, nobody ever would have guessed that Alou would get hurt. He’s only 42 and never showed any propensity to injury.
How could Omar we trusteth in thou have figured on Duque not being reliable for 35 starts? Come on, guys - no one possibly could’ve foreseen him not delivering 220 innings. It’s not fair to blame Minaya even though he’s never won anything - he’s a deity.
Who ever would have foreseen ScSc melting down after being told he couldn’t juice anymore? Why wouldn’t you be comfortable with Schneider’s numbers? ( He’ll ) make Santana SO much better - I don’t know how Pedro and Johan got this far w/out Brian Schneider - do you?”
Yeeaacccchhhhh – Sure is a frustrating day to be a Met fan ain’t it?
Quick Hits:
• Another walk-off win means the Mets have won 5 in a row and grabbed the lead in their final AB everytime.
• Angel Pagan was 1-2 while F-Mart was 2-3 with a BB and a double. Anderson Hernandez was 3-5 with an RBI and a run scored. BMF still believes this kid can hit in the bigs.
• Wednesday’s SNY broadcast saw Ron Darling speak the words, “Angel Pagan has mad skills!” He justified it with, “the kids today say ‘mad skills’” but you gotta love Darling busting out the hip-hop slang on-air!
C’mon who‘s cooler than Ronnie Darling
• This video has nothing to do with our Mets but it’s sports related and cracked me up – Major props to the Chicago Bulls for being cool enough to have some trashy fun with their mascot Benny the Bull
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Mojo Kitty rocks the batting helmet for luck!
March 6th, 2008 at 8:08 am
BMF: I’m flattered!
Wow.
Lip
March 6th, 2008 at 8:32 am
who is ScSc
March 6th, 2008 at 9:17 am
ScSC = Scott Schoeneweis.
I usually am 50/50 in agreement / disagreement with Lippy but this time I am in 110% total and utter agreement. I wrote MONTHS AGO that Moises Alou should not be back with the big club. I was kinda p’d off that the dude we picked up BrewCrew (why is his name escaping me now? the dude who picked a fight with Ned Yost) was let go since we basically traded Mota for a warm body that was let go anyway b/c he was expendable b/c of Schneider? Did that make sense? Prob not.
Anyway - GREAT article on Milledge. Lasto, I still love ya kid and hope you do well. I am so pissed off right now I can’t see straight.
http://www.nj.com/mets/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1204783519236590.xml&coll=1
March 6th, 2008 at 9:19 am
Oh PS I am not happy that Alou got hurt. I think the dude should have hung up his cleats last season. He seriously put up amazing stats despite being injured 2/3 of the season but I was ready to let go then.
Omar must have hella faith in F-Mart and Pagan. I think Pagan gets the call, then F-Mart will be up. Good thing those guys didn’t get included in the trade. There are also rumors floating around FU that Nady might returneth. I’d like that, but not sure he’s the answer. And where the hell is Carlos Beltran? Cleaning out his vagina?
March 6th, 2008 at 9:39 am
I said at the time that I did not understand the Milledge trade and that the Mets would rue the day they made it. The sason hasn’t even started and they already are ready to kick themselves. HOW could Omar be so shortsighted and stupid trading away a young guy like that? Milledge is currently raking in ST for the Nats. The dude will be a star down there. He got kicked to the curb for no good reason and the Mets hurt themselves by making that trade. This team’s offense is becoming Wrigt, Reyes, journeyman guys, and others who are either injury prone or otherwise over the hill. I smell trouble this season folks. Hope I get to come back in here and say I was wrong, but I doubt it.
March 6th, 2008 at 10:03 am
Coop - the Beltran comment may be the funniest thing I’ve ever seen on these boards and THAT is saying something!
it’s a vicious cycle - Minaya needs to win to save his a-s and he feels like he needs a super tema to do it. The man has refused to break anyone in. He doesn’t even pay attention to the farm (worst in baseball) and when he does, he raids it pad a big SIGNING. He is a disaster. Honestly, if people can’t see it, they’re being manipulated. He’s media savy. Think about it.
the guy is the worst GM I’ve ever seen as a Met fan and that is saying A LOT. I mean it - he’s terrible. I won;t be swayed by his big signings which have never materialized. Why is he the GM of this second most valuable team in the sport? Why? he has no credibility - he gets the owner’s son to have his father write checks. It’s absurd. Everuone thinks he’s a hero because of Johan; but how heroic was it? The Mets have no offesnive production. it’s not fair to Wright - once agian it all fall son his shulders. He’ll deliver as always I;m sure; but get real. I don’t care that Johan is “in camp”. This team has major issues. I have said it for years. Minaya has to go. He’s a master of the media. he uses blogs, papers, TV to his advantage and people just don’t realize it. This team sucks. we;re looking at another worst team money can BUY. period. 95% of fans are so happy to read about Reyes’ new car and all the other BS that the machine puts out - this team sucks and it’s the GM’s fault.
March 6th, 2008 at 10:12 am
It does feel fairly inevitable that Omar has to pull off more trades. As much as I’d love to see FMart or Abreu get a taste of the bigs, it probably won’t happen. Omar is said to be shopping some of our bullpen, but I think there’s little value among Sosa, ScSc and Smith.
Question is, can he raid the farm system any more? Are we doomed to have a team that always uses aging veterans? If we get off to a slow start, does he have a fire sale and start a youth movement that will take 2-3 years to mature?
Since we have Santana, Reyes and Wright for many years to come, it might be time to re-think the “win now” philosophy. I’m not syaing that we’re at that point yet, but we may be there by June.
March 6th, 2008 at 10:36 am
You guys have to really get a grip.
IT’S f**kING MARCH!!!!!
A month ago you were firing Omar for a horrible off -season and then everybody’s raving about Omar’s fleecing of the Twins. Slow your roll, ladies. Beltran and Castillo are doing the Strahan bit and don’t want to play meaningless games in March. Calm down, you sound like a bunch of ninnies.
March 6th, 2008 at 10:38 am
These Phucking Philly fans come in here and are laughing at you guys as you bitch and wail. It’s bloody annoying.
March 6th, 2008 at 10:43 am
You make such a big deal out of the milledge trade, but we got an outfielder in return, who if healthy, will out produce Lastings this year. He is down right now with a concussion, but he will be fine. So when we have injuries to outfielders, I don’t blame that trade because, WE got an outfielder in return, it was a wash.
BTW, that video is hilarious.
March 6th, 2008 at 11:17 am
Really. The ground is just thawing out up here. We’ve got over 3 weeks to go of ST, then a lot of long hot days ahead of us.
Alou will def sputter back in some capacity but Pagan has to come in, they’re getting a good long look at him every day.
Personally I’d also put FMartinez in, the guy throws his body into it like he’s made of rubber and we don’t hold our breath until he gets back up. I just think it will take a long time for Beltran to come back to bursts and leaps.
You’ve got to wonder at the blase tude down there though, do they have something else going on??
March 6th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Big P.S….. does anybody have 2 tickets to June 14? I’m not even sure yet if we can go but I’d like dibs on them depending on price…. THANKS!
March 6th, 2008 at 11:21 am
We all know Alou would play no more than 80-85 games…we all know that Church has problems with left handers…we all knew that a 5th outfielder was going to be counted on at least twice a week most of the season to contribute…we all knew that this was the resaon the trade of LM made no sense. I can’t get overly worked up about any of this, we saw it coming for the last four months.
March 6th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
I have to agree with wynd sam and evan. This is the most pessimistic group of ranting ive seen in a while, and this is the Mets we’re talking about, so thats saying something… whether you like the milledge trade or not, if we hadnt traded milledge he would be in right field, so he would not be available to play left for alou. are you going to blame minaya for church’s concussion? As for Duque - that right there has to be a big reason why he made Pelfrey untouchable in the Santana deal. He looked at guys like Lohse, but would you really prefer one of those guys while Duque is out over Pelfrey? Or did you want Minaya to trade for Santana AND Bedard, since we all knew Duque would get hurt? But yeah, how silly of us to look at the Santana trade as a benefit to the team’s skills, when it was obviously just a savvy media move by Omar…
We did know Alou would get hurt, and outfield depth is probably the one spot where we could have used a bit more offseason work. I’m not saying Minaya is a genius or that he deserves no criticism. If the Mets don’t make the playoffs this year, it could be his head. But come on guys. You’re blasting him in March because the team apparently ’sucks’. Actually thanks for the Giants reference Sam: Strahan wasnt in training camp, the Giants lost the first 2 games and everyone was ready to fire the GM, coaches, and waterboy. Even I was. Maybe at least wait until this team starts out 0-5 before you call them the worst team money can buy…
March 6th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
HEY, LIP! EXCUSE THE CAPS ONCE MORE, FYI PHILLIPS & DUQUETTE BY EXTENSION WERE NO FRIENDS TO THE MINORS. ESCOBAR, AGBAYANI, PAYTON COMPRISE THE CREAM OF THEIR POSITIONAL CROP. WRIGHT - REYES? BLIND PIGS OCCASIONALLY SNORT UP AN ACORN OR TWO. SUDDENLY THE MILB POSITIONAL CROWN JEWELS WERE GOMEZ & MARTINEZ, INT’L F/As FOUND & SIGNED BY OMAR. THE ENTIRE METS’ PRODUCT LINE WAS IN TATERS WHEN OMAR WAS HIRED. THE GAMPLES HE TOOK ON DUQUE, ALOU & DELGADO WERE CERTAINLY HEDGED BY MARTINEZ, SANTANA, SANCHEZ, MAINE, PEREZ. LAST I KNEW PITCHING WON CHAMPIONSHIPS. OMAR’S FAILURES HAVE BEEN MOST EVIDENCED BY THE BACKUPS TO THE BACKUPS GETTING TOO MUCH PLAYING TIME. THE SAG AGE OF THE 40 IS 29.5, REMEMBER GREEN/GLAVINE/CONINE/FRANCO ALL AMONGST THE DEARLY DEPARTED. BILL MADDEN, TODAY, COMPLAINS RE. METS HAVING ONLY 2 REGS
March 6th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
reading this board is funnier than watching MtMF order a shirley temple.
March 6th, 2008 at 12:17 pm
LIPPER…THE CORRECTION IS THE AVG AGE OF THE 40 MAN IS 29.5, 30 IF U COUNT DUQUE AS 50. THE FINAL SENTENCE WAS THAT MADDEN’S COMPLAINT RE. ONLY 2 REG
March 6th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Wynd - i don’t remember if you sent me an email, regarding your interest in Coop’s mailing list. I can keep you in mind for June 14.
March 6th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Lippy: you and me “above the fold” today!! Thanks, BMF!
Mets62Fan: I did the math on the roster and I came up with an average age on the 40 man roster of 25.425. that doesn’t seem too shabby. We aren’t an “old” club—we just have age at a few positions. It’s a nice mix overall, if everything plays out right, and there are heirs apparent to most of those aging spots (Pelfrey for Duque, F mart. for Alou) So, I’m not really worried– i don’t think that madden is being fair in his count of regulars–church, schneider and even delgado will be playing soon.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
The pitching age is not the issue, except for El Dookie maybe. I don’t even consider Pedro old. But, if you look at the offense and bench, there are some old and injury prone guys there. If you take the average of guys who are not pitchers, that average age gets up there.
March 6th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Thanks Coop! I shot you an email.
May I say how ticked I am that tonight’s game isn’t on tv for us peons… how many times do they have to show that classic?
Also, I wonder if Cardinals fans are this worried between Pujols and their arms. Probably not.
March 6th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Yo BMF got a shout on out ESPN.com Rob Neyer’s article
http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=3279837&name=Neyer_Rob&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fespn%2fblog%2findex%3fentryID%3d3279837%26name%3dNeyer_Rob
March 6th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Bring back Nady !!
March 6th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
yeah. if you think about it, this team has gone sh*thouse since Nady was traded. well with the exception of getting Oh Pea, what good actually came out of it. In fact, I have gone on record and stated that everything wrong with the Mets these days has everything to do with Duaner Sanchez, the most powerful man on the Mets. nope, not kidding!
March 6th, 2008 at 7:17 pm
First off, props to BMF for his stance today, quoting the masses not once but twice, and getting himself into Ronb Neyer’s world.
Second, I agree about some points with almost everybody today, but not all points with anybody. Essentially, Omar has made some good deals and some bad deals. He’s had some very good signings and some very bad signings. This club is young yet old at the same time, and the farm appears to have some prospects but has also dealt plenty of the good ones. Regardless, the club is in MUCH BETTER SHAPE than it was 5 years ago.
Third, getting more specific, we will be thanking Omar every day for a long time for Santana, and cursing him just as much for ‘Stings. But despite my Man Crush on ‘Stings, I will reiterate what I always tell GroteFan, that outfielders are the EASIEST POSITION TO ACQUIRE BAR NONE. So if the team had to have some issues, that’s the place, and if having one great trade and one horrific trade in the offseason means the Mets get Santana and lose Milledge and Gomez, I can live with that any day of the week.
Fourth, enough with the SKY IS FALLING crap. Seriously, it’s spring training, guys are working their way back, not everything will be great, but the key is to improve as the year goes along and peak at the playoffs. They have 162 games until then, and NOT ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN PLAYED, SO QUIT LOSING YOUR MINDS!
Finally, The Coop, you really need to think about what you’re saying. You know I love you, but stop with Xavier Nady talk. THE GUY EPITOMIZES MEDIOCRE. AND THE METS GOT OH PEA IN THE DEAL. I MAKE THAT DEAL EVERY DAY AND TWICE ON SUNDAY, AND ANY RATIONAL BASEBALL FAN DOES AS WELL, AND IF YOU REALLY THINK THE TEAM ISN’T BETTER OFF WITH OH PEA AND WITHOUT NADY, THEN YOU NEED TO CANCEL YOUR BLOG, STOP GOING TO GAMES AND CHECK INTO BELLEVUE IMMEDIATELY!
LET’S GO METS!
BMF IS THE MAN!
I MISS ‘STINGS!
March 6th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
BlondiesJake, I love you, but have you ever heard of irony? Perhaps you need to re-read my Six Degrees of Duaner Sanchez article I wrote last year.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
Oh. Irony. Missed it.
I was thrown off by the end of your post, where you said, “nope, not kidding!”
Would happily read your SDDS article but can’t find it.
March 6th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
a piece of sky just hitme in the head. there’sblood on my polyster sunshine pants
March 7th, 2008 at 1:46 am
Wish I could go as deep as you guys re: strategic roster moves. I just root for the guys who take the field each day.
Got up to Tradition Field yesterday for my 1st ever ST game while training at Flight Safety in West Palm. Man, what a difference compared to watching games at Shea. The guys on the field could actually hear the crap I was yellin’ from the stands.
Chan Ho Park took a ration for his glacial pace; maybe if the catcher gave the signs in Korean.
Johan looked pretty decent and ScSc threw a scoreless inning in relief. Some pretty comical errors in the outfield and a golden sombrero for the mystery guy wearing No. 90. Of course the same guy finally got a hit in Mets’ 9th and with some savvy base running, ended up scoring the winning run.
The funniest thing to watch while it happened to me as well, were all the folks looking for their cars in the expansive grass parking area after the game. People were hitting their “Panic” buttons hoping their car would respond. All in all, a great way to burn an afternoon.