Mets Lose to Yanks - What Else is New

I swear there is NOTHING BMF HATES MORE THAN LOSING TO THE YANKEES. It makes me friggin’ crazy and I’m realizing I really have to do a better job of separating my baseball emotions from the rest of my life.

 I was really deflated when Dickey didn’t have his 1-Hitter stuff tonite. It would’ve been so great to see him spin another masterpiece vs the Yanks on Sun Nite Baseball.

But the knuckler wasn’t dancing like it usually does and when they surged to a 5-1 lead I just started shaking my head thinking typical Mets - losing another rubber game to the yanks. I swear I’d be shocked if we’ve won more than 2 rubber games against them.  

I’ve come to hate these Subway Series. If we don’t get swept we normally win the Fri nite game to get our hopes up and then drop the next 2. The way I recall, if we win the series we do it by taking the 1st 2 and losing on Sun nite baseball thus leaving us with a bad taste in our mouths despite the series win.

I hear next year its down to just 4 games total played on consecutive days 2 in The BX and 2 in Queens. The good news is we can’t lose 5 or more times to them in 1 season. The bad news is they can now put a 4 game sweep on us.

Watching Swisher play is nauseating. His smirky grins and smiles rounding the bases and making catches is enough to make me puke. 

When Nieuwey struck out with two out, bases loaded in the freshly tied game I knew that was prob it for us. We had them on the ropes and we couldn’t deliver the knock out. In my heart I knew we weren’t gonna win the game after we had all those go-ahead ducks on the pond and failed to take the lead.

It’s tough to complain when you’ve just scored 4 runs with 2 out in the inning but I’m just sayin’…

33 Responses to “Mets Lose to Yanks - What Else is New”

  1. Howard Says:

    If we count the Yankees twice since we played them 2 separate series, the current record of the teams we played in interleague play is 204-153, a .571 winning percentage. Now I like playing the Yankees but I thought the idea in Major League baseball is a balanced schedule. With the wild card races probably coming down to a game or two, this ridiculously difficult interleague schedule might take us out of the playoffs.

    As BMF said in his opening, I cannot stand Swisher and the clown act he does in the dugout and on the field. So this guy ‘loves playing so much’ that he he therefore is allowed to act like a total jerk. I am really suprised that one Met pitcher did not hook him up with a fastball in the ribs.

    Dickey will probably not admit it but I do not think he was mentally ready for attention he was receiving last night. He was completely overthrowing and had almost no movement on the knuckleball.

    And as I mentioned yesterday, Alderson has got to get some bullpen help in here before we are out of the freakin playoffs.

  2. cleonjones Says:

    I HATE LOSING TO THE YANKEES !!! I HATE LOSING TO THE YANKEES !!! I HATE LOSING TO THE YANKEES !!! I HATE LOSING TO THE YANKEES !!! I HATE LOSING TO THE YANKEES !!!- there- I shouted it !!! Lets go Mets !!!! We really have to get some bullpen help. Come on Sandy and do something….

  3. Original62Fan Says:

    We’re still only 3.5 back and still in 2nd place. Let’s move on from here.

  4. cleonjones Says:

    Thanks Original62Fan- you are correct- Lets go Mets !!!!!!!!!

  5. Patrick Says:

    I agree with everything BMF said. Hate the Yankees. Hate losing to them (almost seems fixed). Hate the Subway Series. Most people I know don’t even know it’s happening anymore. Hate Swisher and his smirky grins. I wish they would just do away with this whole NY vs. NY thing. It doesn’t feel like baseball. It feels like a carnival that’s all about cheap thrills just to get your money. Maybe they should make this part of the All-Star break?

  6. Fort Greene Met Fan Says:

    I hate interleague play!

  7. Lord Charles Says:

    “We’re still only 3.5 back and still in 2nd place. Let’s move on from here.”

    This, X1000. The Mets made it through IL with a winning record, and now they get to close out the 1st-Half with 9 of their last 13 against teams with losing records. The next two weeks will go a long way towards defining what type of 2nd-half we can expect.

  8. BlondiesJake Says:

    The Mets could’ve and maybe should’ve swept the yankees but didn’t. I like the team having the opportunity to stick it to the yankees but they fail to do it almost every year. Of course, one WS title against them would’ve forever changed the discussion, but we all know how Benitez turned that around in Game 1.

    I hate when people complain about interleague or an unfair schedule. Baseball teams play 162 games…win enough and make the playoffs, don’t and don’t. Saying this series might be the reason the team doesn’t make the postseason is horsesh*t.

    And finally, to beat a dead horse to death, why the f*ck didn’t Collins use Byrdak this weekend against lefties with the game on the line? The players have to play but the manager didn’t do them any favors this weekend. Grrrrrr!

  9. Buck Says:

    BJ- 162 games or not it is a fact! Why should the Mets play the Yanks 6 times every year when teams like the marlins get to play the rays when they sucked or the Phillies get to play a perrenial loser like the Orioles? IF interleaugue is to continue than it needs to be balanced like the NFL! The entire NL East should play the entire AL East just one 3 game series with each alternating home/away each year. By arguing that the season is 162 games long is bulls**t! Do you not remember being passed over for the final spot on the last day? (That question is theorhetical as I know we all do).

  10. Buck Says:

    Agree with the Byrdak comment 100% . I HATE LOSING TO THE YANKEES! I do feel better….Thanks Cleon!

  11. Howard Says:

    I agree that 162 games is a long season and the 6 games with the Yankees is not ridiculously significant but the the overall interleague schedule for each team does make a difference. There are 15 interleague games, which is almost 1/10 of the entire Mets schedule. Playing 15 games against teams that are all over .500 can definitely make a difference at the end of the year if we miss out of the playoffs by a game or 2.

  12. Irish Mike Says:

    “Baseball teams play 162 games…win enough and make the playoffs, don’t and don’t. Saying this series might be the reason the team doesn’t make the postseason is horsesh*t.”

    So to extrapolate - if the Mets had to play the Yankees 40 times and the rest of the division played them three times it still wouldn’t matter? Sorry I am strongly in the camp that Mets-Yankees has jumped the shark and the six games each year only serve to hurt the Mets postseason chances. Well they serve to get above average attendance at Citi for three games due to the proliferation of Yankee fans too. I could live without both of those outcomes.

    I’m sure TC’s logic on Byrdak was along the lines of “if I use him now I might regret it when these same lefties are coming up in the 9th” but that’s the same poor logic that has managers saving their “closer” until the 9th with a three run lead rather than using him the day before when the game hung in the balance in the 7th inning. The games this weekend were hanging in the balance - keep yourself alive for the moment and we’ll worry about the 9th inning in the 9th inning.

    Silver lining - Tejada comes back and goes 2-4 with two RBI. I don’t fault his error - he knew that run scoring from 3rd was huge so he flung that ball as hard as he could blind and off balance hoping that by some miracle it would beat the runner to first.

  13. Lord Charles Says:

    “Playing 15 games against teams that are all over .500 can definitely make a difference at the end of the year if we miss out of the playoffs by a game or 2. ”

    True, but compared to where the Mets were picked, at least that is a legitimate fear for us to have at this point in the season…

  14. Howard Says:

    LC, at this point of the season not getting the 2nd playoff spot is going to be a disappointment for me assuming the starting rotation stays healthy.

    With Mejia coming up soon, and Alderson doing something else to improve the bullpen, I expect us to be right there for the playoff spot.

  15. Lord Charles Says:

    ^Wouldn’t be surprised to see Harvey, and possibly Wheeler, who is destroying AA, called up, also. Sort of similar to the way the Rays used Jeremy Hellickson as a reliever a season before making him a full-time starter.

  16. BlondiesJake Says:

    I’d like to point out the Mets missed the playoffs by a game in 2008 and 2009 because they lost games to bad teams including the Marlins and the Nats in the final weeks when they knew EXACTLY what they needed to do and didn’t do it.

  17. BlondiesJake Says:

    Er, 2007 and 2008

  18. Met_Maven Says:

    Gotta agree with BJake 100% a loss is a los no matter what. What if there was an NL Central or NL East team that was stacked like the Yankees who constantly beat us, would we be complaining that we have to face them a couple of times a year while certain AL teams don’t? What about when the NL East has to play the Yankees and the Yankees beat them, thus helping us? To me, the games are just another game. Losing to the Yankees is no different than losing to any other club. What I hate is their arrogant, bandwagon fans that I have to sit next to during the game I go to. As long as they continue to bounce back after these losses and string a bunch of wins together, the subway series is just another series.

    LETS GO METS GO!

  19. CowCrusher Says:

    Face it, some of the skanks are a bunch of crybabies so FF was correct with his remarks. Swisher is a douche and almost got cut so he is a prime suspect for doing PEDs. Pettite must be in financial trouble so why would he “UN-retire”? I find the whole Clemens acquittal”fishy” since his testimony is what the prosecution was hanging their hat on. While the best punishment for Clemens is that he is never to get into the HOF, at least while he is alive. Karma can be a bitch, but roids and other PEDs can take a toll on your health. Hopefully he won’t be on this planet for too much longer.

  20. the dude formerly known as bill l.he Says:

    CowCrusher: you jumped the shark with your Yankee obsession long ago, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised at anything you write on the subject. But rooting for Clemens early death? That’s a bit harsh, don’t you think?

  21. rj Says:

    Losing to the Yankees seems worse than a playoff loss and just shy of a WS loss..There are so many factors why we easily hate that team.

    Here’s my top ten list.

    1. The Fans- Most hopped on a bandwagon, most know nothing about the game or their team. ( A good percentage thinks the teams color is black and white?)

    2. The Money- You can buy a Yankee cap in Calcutta. How can you compete?

    3. The Brooklyn Dodger Factor- Hatred handed down from our ancestors.

    4. 2000 World Series- Series loss in 2000 added to the hatred.

    5. Geroge Steinbrenner- The biggest clown owner in the history of baseball…for constantly soaking up the back page with his stupid crap and taking up Mets space. If we won and he did something guess who got the press?

    6. The Yankee Greats- Well if youre around as long as they have been youre sure to get a few greats..it does help to have the shortest right field wall in baseball history.

    7. Mike Francessa & Suzyn Waldman (TIE)- Do I really need to say anything here?

    8. Roger Clemens - “I thought it was the ball!” No thats not roid rage..We all know from the time we are little leaguers that when you field the ball you throw it at the batter to get him out. I Call him Moron Extrordinaire.

    9. Tom Seaver- Seaver going over to broadcast Yankee games was enough to make any Met Fan sick.

    10. 27 World Championships- The constant rambling on an on and on. It’s such a stupid thing but we as Met fans can’t stand this. For me it’s an acknowledgement of stupidity on the part of Yankee fans in general because if they had a brain in their head they would realize that the St. Louis Cardinals have been more successful. True St. Louis franchise is more impressive. Never tops in Payroll and has the second most championships in all of baseball….and you can’t buy a Cards hat in Calcutta..

  22. Irish Mike Says:

    Looks like Yankee derangement syndrome has fried a few brains. Hoping Clemens dies soon? We hate the Yankees because of Tom Seaver? The Cardinale have been more successful? Yikes.

    Then there was this:

    “What if there was an NL Central or NL East team that was stacked like the Yankees who constantly beat us, would we be complaining that we have to face them a couple of times a year while certain AL teams don’t?”

    What?!

  23. Met_Maven Says:

    Irish Mike, a prior comment by Buck said

    “Why should the Mets play the Yanks 6 times every year when teams like the marlins get to play the rays when they sucked or the Phillies get to play a perrenial loser like the Orioles?”

    My argument is, if there was another team like the Yankees in the NL that we had to face e very year, that other tams don’t, would we still be bitching about it then?

    So RJ, if the Mets lost to, say, the Angels in the World Series, but won the Subway Series that would be better?

    Who cares if they lose to the Yankees or the Blue Jays or the Astros or the Cubs? A loss is a loss. If you win enough games, you get in the playoffs. 5 losses to the Yankees is no different than 5 losses to any other team.

    When the time comes that the Mets are back on top and he Yankees are #2 the bandwagon fans will be nowhere to be found, the money doesn’t matter, the last 10 years, the Yankees only won 1 title. The payroll for the winning teams has been significantly less than the Yankees or the Mets. The hatred was passed on by those Dodgers & Giants teams of the past, yes, but there are a few people who are “descendents” of those former fans who root for the Yankees. It’s their prerogative. The 2000 WS was 12 years ago, its time to let it go. Yes it sucks big time that the Yankees beat the Mets, but they lost to the DBacks in 2001 when everyone said it was a guaranteed WS win for the Yankees, and they lost to the Marlins in ‘03 which was supposed to be another Yankee “gimmie”. I don’t care about Steinbrenner making the back pages for being a jackass. I never got what the big deal was for the “battle of the back page” the proof is in the standings not the coverage of a ranting egomaniac. As for the Yankee greats, as you said, they’ve been around forever, they had a great legacy of great players. Not all of them were bought. Fatcesca and Waldman are perennial cheerleaders who are more of an embarrassment to their team than anything. The Mets have far better announcers, even most Yankee fans agree to that. I have several close friends who are Yankee fans who can’t stand their broadcasters. Clemens. Hate him. He’s a roided up d-bag. But, again, that incident was 12 years ago, while it’s part of the teams history, its not relevant now as neither of them play anymore. Take comfort that Piazza will be in the hall long before Clemens is if he even gets in at all. Really, Tom Seaver broadcasting a few games for the Yankees? That’s a reason to hate them? It’s a business, there are former players all over baseball that are broadcasting for a team that they didn’t play for. I agree & disagree on the 27 championships. Most of them weren’t bought. It wasn’t until recently that they started buying up every big player they could. Its their ignorant fanbase that throws that in your face every day that I can’t stand. But as I said earlier, eventually the Mets will regain the top billing in this town and the Yankee bandwagon fans will disappear and the true Met fans, like all us here, can bask in the glory we have long deserved.

    LETS GO METS GO!

  24. CowCrusher Says:

    Shark jumping? Obsession? Hardly…just some observations backed up by fans of tbe opposing team at New Shea this past Saturday. Wishing Roger an early demise?, not at all. I am merely saying that he needlessly abused his own body, had an enormous ego that prevented him from owning up to his own mistakes ,essentially committed perjury albeit the weaseling of his “buddy” Andy who suddenly changed his initial testimony. Had Pettite not UN-retire, I would wager a much different outcome. Roger has signed his own demise

  25. CowCrusher Says:

    Actually I feel sorry for guys like Jeter, Granderson and Rivera who will always be connected to those idiots. Even recent greats like Pinella, Matingly, Dent, and Williams must shudder at the atittude and actions displayed by A-roid and Swisher.
    Remember who was top dog in this town in 69, early 70’s and a good portion of the 80’s? Yep, it was our New York Mets…and when the bombers bandwagon falls off its wheels anf the inevitable money woes come to be, New Shea will once again Rock like old Shea did back then.

  26. rj Says:

    We hate the Yankees because of Tom Seaver? The Cardinale have been more successful? Yikes

    Mike. Lots of Met fans hated the fact that Tom Seaver was doing broadcasts for Yankee games..Sorry if you didn’t remember the general consensus of that..And yes the Cardinals have been more successful…take a look at what kind oif payroll they had when they won versus the BIG Yankee Payroll Machine..Yanks have been top three since their inception..

  27. rj Says:

    So RJ, if the Mets lost to, say, the Angels in the World Series, but won the Subway Series that would be better?

    No Maven obviously you didn’t read what I wrote..

    Losing to the Yankees SEEMS worse than a playoff loss and just SHY of a WS loss…meaning that we take these games between them more seriously than other regular season games…I dont know if I can speak for everyone but getting swept by the Yankees SEEMS worse than losing a one game playoff for the wild card…Losing to the Yankees in the regular season is not as important but it FEELS that way…and I did say it was SHY of a WS loss so I don’t know how you came up with that Angels-Mets scenario..

    ALL OF THOSE WORLD SERIES WERE BOUGHT..Tell me a time they won and they werent top 5 payroll? if not top 3? That means bought to me..sure they had some nice rookies not saying that but they could AFFORD to keep those rookies when they went free agent…Would the Yankees have had a problem paying REYES? NO! because you can buy a Yankee cap in Calcutta!!

    It wasnt till recently they started buying??? Somewhat delusional there…Theyve been paying out big bucks since RUTH

  28. rj Says:

    I would bet that if there are Met fans that hate the Yankees it’s a good possibility that they hate them for some or most of my items on my top ten list..If not? Then why do you hate them? Did I leave something out? Tell me?

  29. Buck Says:

    I stand by my post. If MLB insists on Inter-League play at least attempt to balance the schedule as much as possible. While a loss, is a loss is a loss……..A loss is much more likely against the Yankees (1-5 this year) than it is against the Orioles (3-0) this year. If the entire NL Division played another AL Division at least the schedule would be more balanced than it is today. That is the main point of my argument!! It doesn’t solve all the problems for the Wild Card race but at least it is a start. Personally, I can’t stand Inter-League play and would abolish it completely but I know $$$$ rules so that won’t be happening anytime soon.

  30. Irish Mike Says:

    Man you guys are more Yankees deranged than I thought. I don’t have time to go point by point but I’ll hit a few highlights.

    rj I still don’t understand your interleague question - what do I care if there is a good NL Central Division team that the Mets have to play but some AL teams don’t. Who cares who the AL teams are playing?

    To whomever - yes a loss is a loss no mater who you play (although an interdivision loss is worse) but the point for many of us is that the Mets having to play the Yankees, who year in and out are an elite team, while their direct rivals do not can’t help but hurt them in the big picture. “A loss is a loss” is an oversimplification. Would you be oky if they played 30 times and other NL teams played them 3-5 times? If you say no then you are acknowledging that playing the Yankees more then everyone else hurts the Mets.

    Tom Seaver? Yeah I recall being annoyed but I also recall thinking that the Yankees probably offered him a job and the Mets didn’t. People need jobs. Plus we quickly learned that he was awful at it so I quickly became happy he was with them (unfortunately we got him for a few years later on).

    Cardinals have been more successful because of payroll? So we are re-defining success now based on your arbitrary determination of an acceptable payroll? What is acceptable by the way? The Mets had the highest payroll in the NL in 2006 - does that mean a win in the NLCS would have been tainted?

  31. rj Says:

    rj I still don’t understand your interleague question - what do I care if there is a good NL Central Division team that the Mets have to play but some AL teams don’t. Who cares who the AL teams are playing?

  32. rj Says:

    Buck I hear what youre saying..going the NFL way is not a bad idea..schedule the games based on record from the previous year..however the Yankees boost ticket prices for small market teams who don’t draw so how can you take that away from them?

  33. rj Says:

    my post got cut short for some reason

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