I’m still waiting for somebody to tell me about all the great relievers other teams signed, as though only the Mets signed the up and down or bad ones.
Here Jake, because you’re crazy enough to keep throwing out this challenge…
FA relievers we could have signed that are having a good season so far.
Jeremy Affeldt
Jonathan Broxton
Matt Capps
Joe Nathan
Javier Lopez
Juan Cruz
Fernando Rodney
Rich Hill
I could find more, but I got bored…but what does cherry picking names prove? You know I hate Monday Quarterbacking…but I’m not 2nd guessing these moves…I hated them from the beginning.
We’re paying Frank Francisco 12mil to close when he couldn’t keep his closers job last year?
Another 3.5Mil to Jon Rauch when he’s been getting worse?
How much are we paying D. J. Carrasco?
It’s not even so much that the Pen sucks…I know there wasn’t money to really improve the pen, or any other aspect of the team…but when Alderson made these moves, everyone was going nuts about how great these moves were and how great the pen was going to be.
If anyone really looked at what this pen was, you’d see it was full of guys who’ve be inconsistent and was coming of disappointing seasons (expect for Ramon Ramirez, I actually liked that move).
That’s my main problem…too many people are these Alderson-MoneyBall-Sabermetrics-Zombies and the just assume that Alderson is this GM genius. Many don’t even understand what Sabermetrics are and many refuse to see how bad Alderson’s track record is.
I’m not the type of person who likes to go around saying that I’m smarter than others…but this off season I was saying that I thought the Starting pitching was pretty decent, the Offense was going to be questionable, but people were overrating it a bit, I was seeing some holes…but I thought that the Pen was very weak even though everyone couldn’t stop themselves from kissing Aldersons @ss for that pen.
Also, for the record…I also said that the Yankees rotation was cr@p even though all the NY talking heads thought it was fantastic and the deepest in the AL…but that’s a story for another day…
Maybe I should get hired by SNY or the Fan and sit on their shows and give some true incite.
USMF, thanks for the list. And I understand your point. I’m not sure why people were going gaga over the pen when the upgrades were mediocre. Given that, I’m not surprised by what has happened with the pen and do think they have had some big moments and some awful ones. But I will say again this team doesn’t have the record it does now without the pen having pitched well a bunch of times. Besides the outings recently by Santana and Dickey, most nights the pen is pitching 3+ innings as the top 4 starters are averaging about 6 innings per start. You’re not 7 games over .500 with starters who don’t go deep into games without some quality bullpen efforts.
June 4th, 2012 at 3:53 pm
Oh well….
Still pretty damn impressive and fun, against the defending champs.
What’s the deal with Rauch.
Cannot wait for Chris to come back!
June 4th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
Honestly, our pen couldn’t get worse. Why can’t we send all these clowns down and get some new, fresh arms?
June 4th, 2012 at 8:42 pm
I’m still waiting for somebody to tell me about all the great relievers other teams signed, as though only the Mets signed the up and down or bad ones.
June 4th, 2012 at 8:47 pm
^Heath Bell? Oh, wait…
June 4th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
I’m not saying the team made the best choices, I just think relievers are a crapshoot, even closers.
June 4th, 2012 at 11:05 pm
Here Jake, because you’re crazy enough to keep throwing out this challenge…
FA relievers we could have signed that are having a good season so far.
Jeremy Affeldt
Jonathan Broxton
Matt Capps
Joe Nathan
Javier Lopez
Juan Cruz
Fernando Rodney
Rich Hill
I could find more, but I got bored…but what does cherry picking names prove? You know I hate Monday Quarterbacking…but I’m not 2nd guessing these moves…I hated them from the beginning.
We’re paying Frank Francisco 12mil to close when he couldn’t keep his closers job last year?
Another 3.5Mil to Jon Rauch when he’s been getting worse?
How much are we paying D. J. Carrasco?
It’s not even so much that the Pen sucks…I know there wasn’t money to really improve the pen, or any other aspect of the team…but when Alderson made these moves, everyone was going nuts about how great these moves were and how great the pen was going to be.
If anyone really looked at what this pen was, you’d see it was full of guys who’ve be inconsistent and was coming of disappointing seasons (expect for Ramon Ramirez, I actually liked that move).
That’s my main problem…too many people are these Alderson-MoneyBall-Sabermetrics-Zombies and the just assume that Alderson is this GM genius. Many don’t even understand what Sabermetrics are and many refuse to see how bad Alderson’s track record is.
I’m not the type of person who likes to go around saying that I’m smarter than others…but this off season I was saying that I thought the Starting pitching was pretty decent, the Offense was going to be questionable, but people were overrating it a bit, I was seeing some holes…but I thought that the Pen was very weak even though everyone couldn’t stop themselves from kissing Aldersons @ss for that pen.
Also, for the record…I also said that the Yankees rotation was cr@p even though all the NY talking heads thought it was fantastic and the deepest in the AL…but that’s a story for another day…
Maybe I should get hired by SNY or the Fan and sit on their shows and give some true incite.
June 5th, 2012 at 12:14 am
USMF, thanks for the list. And I understand your point. I’m not sure why people were going gaga over the pen when the upgrades were mediocre. Given that, I’m not surprised by what has happened with the pen and do think they have had some big moments and some awful ones. But I will say again this team doesn’t have the record it does now without the pen having pitched well a bunch of times. Besides the outings recently by Santana and Dickey, most nights the pen is pitching 3+ innings as the top 4 starters are averaging about 6 innings per start. You’re not 7 games over .500 with starters who don’t go deep into games without some quality bullpen efforts.