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Trade Beltran???
It’s official, the cries of “Trade Beltran” have moved from the lunatic fringe into mainstream Met “blogversations”.
The more Lastings plays the more we’re gonna hear it too. I never thought I’d be a part of this movement but BMF can no longer say I’m against trading Carlos Beltran.
The spark and energy Milledge provides has reminded me there can be life without CB.
Beltran obviously makes a fortune and quite frankly doesn’t deliver enough to earn it. I thought we gave him a no trade when we inked him but can’t find evidence of that anywhere so perhaps I’m wrong…
I’d be interested to see what he’d net us in a trade. Although I’m 100% against trading him this year but I’m surprisingly VERY open to the concept.
As geeked as we all are on Lastings right now he’s still in his first time around the league so it’s too early to hand the CF keys to him just yet… but the off season might be different story.
The truth is Beltran can take you on a magic ride for a couple of weeks, very possibly in the postseason as well, but the guy just doesn’t seem to have passion for the game on an everyday basis.
Of course Beltran looks even more laid back in comparison to Milledge who oozes passion from every pore. In Lastings’ short time here he’s done it all - hit for average, power, stolen bases, game saving catches, game winning hits and game winning runs.
I’ve become sick of Beltran’s inability to produce unless he’s in perfect health. Look man, if you play a sport for a living you’re rarely, if ever, gonna be without nagging injuries. Aches and pains are just part of life once you pass 25 years old. BMF doesn’t play any sports for a living and I’m CONSTANTLY facing nagging injuries – in fact my toe kinda hurts right now.
I didn’t think I’d ever see the day but I have a sneaking suspicion Met brass is more open to moving him than anyone realizes…
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Good for Lo Duca for pushing his way back into the line-up. Willie claims he wasn’t convinced by PLD’s pleading but BMF is calling BS on that one.
C’mon Skip, your team leader wanted to be in there for his buddy’s 300th win. He kicked and screamed but stopped short of your offer to, “Go ahead and punch me in the face, because I’m not going to play you.”
I’m just not buying that Randolph reassessed and suddenly proclaimed him fit. Willie, it’s OK to give in to your players once in awhile, it doesn’t threaten your power so you shouldnt’ feel the need to cover it up. It’s actually great PR if Lo Duca’s passion swayed your decision. The guy is an old school ball player who wants to be out there no matter what hurts… ya’ hear that Beltran???
Quick Hits:
• Ben Johnson broke an ankle in AAA and is done for the year. From where we stand now the Royce Ring and Heath “Taco” Bell for Johnson and John Adkins trade is a total bust.
• There is a grass roots movement over at Savetheapple.com under way to convince the Mets to take the HR Apple with them to CitiField. At first I was outraged that the Apple wouldn’t be included in the new digs but then I learned they’re planning on a new hi-tech HR apple for CitiField.
Sorry savetheapple.com guys I admire your gumption but BMF isn’t on board. The Met plan is correct, replace the crumbly old apple with a modern one complete with pyrotechnics and display the original somewhere at the stadium as a relic of days gone by.
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Shawn Green Live Journal - contributed by Max and Lodigs
Mood: Livid
The DJ and I are in the biggest fight ever. When I came to the Mets they asked me what I wanted for my AB music. I said something big and powerful, that the fans could really grab on to. Woo-Hoo, right? I mean the song, I’m not cheering.
Well anyway, that jerk DJ starts it at the beginning of the song! That part sucks! It’s boring and definitely not WOO HOO! You ever notice that I take my time getting up to the plate? Yeah, cuz I’m waiting for a WOO HOO! You wouldn’t believe how mad the umpires get at me. Last week, Angel Hernandez was behind the plate, and he started SCREAMING at me.
After the game, I tried talking to the DJ and he’s like, “Jesus you whine a lot. It’s a freaking song. I’ll play what I want and you’ll love it. You think Reyes cares that one of his songs is complete gibberish?” I think he’s talking about THIS Fine, whatever. I thought that’d be the end of it, but you know what? He started playing this new song whenever I get up there. I think it’s by Audioslave, and is probably called ‘Music to cry softly into your pillow to.”
When I went back to say that was even less cool, he said if I didn’t shut up, he was going to play the chicken dance whenever I got up to bat.
And people wonder why I never smile?
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August 7th, 2007 at 7:06 am
“the cries of “Trade Beltran” have moved from the lunatic fringe into mainstream Met ‘blogversations’.”
No, the lunatic fringe has just gotten louder… there is nothing sane about the idea…
August 7th, 2007 at 8:44 am
If Paulie wants to play so bad, he should start hitting. As usual Castro has been hitting very well lately.
BMF, hope the toe gets better soon
August 7th, 2007 at 9:13 am
Lord Charles: Your handle is too much for Beltran’s fragile constitution. Even a 22 year old rookie’s breaking pitches cause him to panic and freeze.
Scott Boras must have omitted that section in his player dosier. Boras(s): if you rep. him, he won;t come (to NYC - unless he signs on with Wal*Mart). Branck Rickey, baby. We’ll grow ‘em on the farm and NOT rely on a big signing.
Nice, BMF!!! Way to go. I LOVE this post. The guy is a gold bricker = dead weight. he contributes nothing other than padding his quite mediocore stats. We have plenty of outfielders. To all who tout his wonderful fielding ability, I say bullsh-t. All a CF needs are a decent pair of legs, and we all know how much Beltran’s perpetually ache. Gomez’ is twice a s fast and his legs will carry him to the ball and he will make a TON of catches and will win Gold Gloves out the wazoo.
I am beyond disgusted with Beltran and his piss poor performance. I’m sick of hearing the stupid song when he comesup to bat and his lackluster money grubbing attitude is a one way ticket on the 7 train with a transfer at 42nd Street to the Bronx bound green line. Get him the f–k off my beloed team. He is a disgrace to the uniform. Offer him to SF for Lincecum.
Omar, we LOVE you. You’re so great. My a-s. You brough him here, you get rid of him.
BMF, if he DOES have a no trade clause which we should NEVER give, unless to a franchose player like Jose Reyes will probably be in 5 years, we cna get around it. Just send him his checks in the amil and ostracize him. We don;t need you in the dugout, at team functions or anything at all. Sit home. He’ll waive the no trade proviso real fast.
I’m sure the Wilpon’s have a fabulous contract attorney.
My tlerance for this guy has exceeded its threshold.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:14 am
I think the “trade Beltran” talk is dangerous. His fat contract will make it very hard to move him, and Omar isn’t the type of GM to eat part of a salary in a trade. And once Beltran gets wind of this, he’ll really start to sulk and his play will be even more lethargic.
His ego seems so frail (remmeber how he hated Mets fans initially for booing him), that we should try to find a way to motivate him. “Good hit Carlos,” “Atta Boy Carlos,” “Sorry your legs hurt Carlos–hope ya feel better soon”
August 7th, 2007 at 9:19 am
Lippy, while I appreciate the fact that you “get” the origins of my handle, and haven’t confused me with a Prince Albert… you’ve used that line already and should find some new material!!
August 7th, 2007 at 9:23 am
Sorry, LC - I’m stuck on dump Beltran mode. It’s tormenting me. I need a good game to watch tonight.
You’ve heard the last of that reference!
Best,
Lippy
August 7th, 2007 at 9:42 am
Lastings Milledge can hit for the cycle and burp Beltran all in one inning.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:46 am
and go phils!
August 7th, 2007 at 10:18 am
BMF, I gotta disagree about the apple. A shiny new apple won’t mean a thing. The papie-mache and masking tape top hat is so charming and scrappy. It looks like something someone made for a 4H fair, and if we don’t have an actual piece of old Shea in new CitiField, I’m not on board.
I’d trade Beltran for the old apple.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:25 am
Lodigs, OMG. I would love to see that - trading Beltran for the Apple. I would do that move today!!! I agree though - someone has gotten lost in the mix in Wilpons efforts to remind us of the Brooklyn Dodgers and that’s Bill Shea. If the apple is the last remaining part we have of the man who BROUGHT us the Mets, I’m all for it.
I can’t say much about Beltran except to visit MSF and visit the link on the BP Posse or Carlos Beltran sits with yeast infection. Two of my best, if I do say so myself. In the meantime, if you can’t get over there, let’s just say I agree 110% with what The Lip has to say. That’s because I truly believe we share the same brain.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:41 am
Dsterman makes a good point. You sure this isn’t a site for Yankee fans? If not your What have u done lately? attitude is too reminiscient of A-Rod jeers in Brx. I distinctly remember that the decision maker for getting Beltran over Houston’s offer was the No Trade Clause. You guys insist he play injured? Just like he did for most of ‘05? you certainly rewarded his efforts that year. Why should he? Did Beltran approch the Mets insisting on $119m? Like it or not, at the time that was his value to more than one team. Play Milledge over Beltran? Do you guys think this is some stupid video game? Since Milledge claims to have played CF all of his life, how come he keeps running the wrong way, necessitating dramatic catches? reminds me of another Met cfer who made a huge impact with out-of-position diving saves. (Agee). For that misinformed couch spud who thinks all a cfer needs is fast feet. try researching why Willie Mays, who prowled Polo Grounds & Candlestick, dubbed Shea as the hardest CF to play. Maybe the absolute beauty of Beltran’s defense is the ease with which he seems to handle his job. Anybody want to give back last year’s 41 souveneirs?
Who wants to guarantee Milledge’s enthusiasm maintains when any job is his permanantly. If $$$ paid made a ballplayer better, they weren’t that good to begin with. You can’t judge a player by his salary set your expectations based on their career numbers not their paycheck or best year. Glavine isn’t being celebrated for gettin a less than steller 10 wins this year; but obviously his body of work.
Most importantly let’s concentrate on this series regardless of the cfer. I predict we take first 2 with bullpens playing big part in entire series. At least one suprising dramatic Win for the good guys. Texciers (sp?) at disadvantage facing pitching for first time. No Beltran balanced by no Renteria.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:53 am
Mets62Fan, i see what you are saying and to an extent I agree (sort of) - Beltran’s selling point for coming here was the no-trade clause. But Shawn Green had a no-trade clause (as did Gagne, etc) and it was waived to come to NY (or Boston in Gagne’s case). So if the opportunity to get a young strong arm for Beltran’s bloated salary came along, tell me you wouldn’t go for it? Keep in mind Duque is like 95 and Glavine will probably retire this season. Anyway, I feel that Omar should jump all over that.
The issue with Beltran playing hurt is this — when LoDuca played hurt last year (thumb), when Delgado played hurt (wrist, right?) and several others, it was a backdrop but the kicker is they PERFORMED. When Beltran has menstrual cramps, all of a sudden, it’s the reason why he can’t hit in the clutch, dogs his plays, acts like he doesn’t care and I do submit this - his attitude just spill over into the rest of the clubhouse. Last year there was a no prisoners attitude. Beltran certainly wasn’t the leader but he did get caught up in it. This year, the team seems to emulate his padded stats and let-me-cash-my-paycheck-underachieving mindset. Yes, it sounds kind of like, you guessed it, A-Rod. I say that both NY teams dump those two a-holes and get some young blood who actually WANT to be here.
August 7th, 2007 at 11:03 am
There’s no way I’d trade Beltran. No way at all. Even when he’s not hitting, he’s walking, stealing and plays a fantastic center field. This is all crazy talk. All of it!
He’s one of the best CF’s in the game and I’ll take him on my team any day.
BTW, we’ve still got him for 4 years and considering the balooning salaries in baseball, he’s going to wind up being a bargain.
‘Nuff said.
August 7th, 2007 at 11:09 am
PM, Lord Charles: I’m with you on this. But I think I took some sort of vow not to continually stick up for Beltran and/or Delgado all the time on this site. But I’m with you in spirit. All this talk is loco.
August 7th, 2007 at 11:28 am
BMF, Why are my posts not showing up???
August 7th, 2007 at 11:29 am
OK, you can dislike Beltran, but get the facts right.
Believe it or not (I was surprised too) SNY.com did a story on NY (Mets and Spanks) players and their success rate Throwing/hitting different pitches…Mr. Beltran has the highest success rate for both teams hitting the curve…Strange how perception is completely different than reality…BTW CD is the worst in NY hitting the ol’ #2.
Beltran does not have a no trade, so O can move him if the right deal comes around…
Also Beltran has great PS numbers, and up until this year, has had very good numbers late in games and with RISP…This year nobody on the Mets has done anything great, if fact the lack of hitting behind Beltran has done nothing but hurt him.
I’m sorry to say, while Stings has done fine in CF, Beltran is still the best CF out there…He has by far the highest range factor (I know BMFers hate stats) of all CFs and is at the top of all fielding categories…With guys like Greene and Alou, you need the Best CF you can get…Not to mention, Stings will be starting in RF next year after we say goodbye to Green…and CIII is still a year away…
Is Beltran Over paid? yes…his numbers this year (other than hitting with RISP) are about what you should expect from him…
I worry about his injuries too, I don’t like how is legs are always getting hurt…I can see a drop in production in the next few years if this trend doesn’t change…Seeing that he skipped surgery to come back and play with a busted face, I can’t call him a p***y or what ever you want to say…
I do worry about his thin skin, he needs to take a lesson from A-Rod and say F-U to all the ignorant A-Holes how talk out their ass all day…Your never gonna please these people, stop trying and just play the game…
I won’t miss Beltran if he was traded, but be realistic, he’s not going anywhere, and he’s not holding the team back…
August 7th, 2007 at 11:30 am
I guess you can’t have more than one link in a post…you’ll just have to take my word for it.
August 7th, 2007 at 11:32 am
Hey ‘62, did it ever occur to you that the reason Willie Mays thought it was SO difficult to play CF at Shea was because he was 41 years old when he played there? Also, the Polo Grounds was a bandbox compared to Shea, which was built in the 1960’s era of pitching domination.
I’ll give you this, though: Mays was the greatest CF whoever lived. To say his name in the same sentence as Beltran’s is preposterous.
Also, I said to play GOMEZ in CF when he’s healthy. Milledge has too much power and should play left or right - probably left.
Yankee fan site??? Don’t think so.
August 7th, 2007 at 11:42 am
Beltrans Contract…
Carlos Beltran of
7 years/$119M (2005-11)
* $11M signing bonus
o $5M at signing 1/05, $2M 6/15/05, $2M 1/15/06, $2M 1/15/07
* 05:$10M, 06:$12M, 07:$12M, 08:$18.5M, 09:$18.5M, 10:$18.5M, 11:$18.5M
* $0.1M bonus each for All Star, Gold Glove or Silver Slugger
* $0.2M bonus for 4th-place finish in 2006 NL MVP vote
* signed as a free agent 1/05
* $22M deferred to 2012-18
o 8 annual installments of $3,142,857 @ 1.7175% interest
* $8.5M deferred annually from 2008-2011
* club agreed to not offer arbitration after 2011 season
* perks: hotel suite on road, 15-person suite at home games, club agreed to lease ocular enhancer machine (device that throws numbered & multi-colored tennis balls at 150 mph)
* 1 year/$9M (2004), avoided arbitraiton 1 /04
* 1 year/$6M (2003), lost arbitration 2/03 ($6.95M-$6M)
* 1 year/$3.5M (2002), avoided arbitration 1 /02
o 2002 incentives: $0.1M MVP, $25,000 ALCS MVP, $50,000 each All Star, Gold Glove, Silver Slugger, WS MVP
* 1 year/$0.425M (2001)
* 1 year/$0.35M (2000)
* 1 year/$0.2M (1999)
* drafted 1995 (2-49)
* agent: Scott Boras
* ML service: 8.014
You gotta be kidding, I love CIII, but he’s lost in the OF right now, he’s nowhere near ready to play full time…
Sorry, but wrong again…Stings will be in RF and thats where he belongs…You need a fast guy with the strongest arm in right to make the throws to 3rd and home…LF is where you dump your slow guys with noodle arms…
August 7th, 2007 at 11:51 am
Even Mike Cameron had a hard time adjusting to CF in Shea his first year here…yes he’s no Mays, but still a great fielder…
Wait to see what Hunter, Jones and Cameron get this year and compare their numbers and see what kind of deal we are getting with Beltran…
August 7th, 2007 at 11:51 am
Beltran is not going anywhere. Do you really think Omar is going to say “Hmm…..how can I make us a better team. I’ve got it! I’ll trade away our best fielder and club leader in HR’s and RBI’s for a young pitching prospect, and replace him in the field with a rookie with no postseason experience! Brilliant!!”
I don’t always love his attitude, or his production for that matter. He’s not one of the best players in baseball even though he’s paid like it, but you know what……I’m over it. He’s over paid. So what. He’s still one of, if not the, most productive players on the Mets. He’s the leading run producer and plays a GREAT centerfield. Anyone who thinks you can just put somebody fast out there and do as well as Beltran I have one name for you: Roger Cedeno!
I’ll take Beltran in center and those hungry, tallented rookies make our bench a huge asset. Do you really want David Newhan as an important part of the team? Not me.
Don’t get me wrong, I love what ‘Stings is doing and if this was a “bench Green” discussion I might be all for it. Anyway, I gotta go. I type too slow for long posts.
EFF THE BRAVES!!!
August 7th, 2007 at 11:58 am
I am NOT one of these Omar is a Genius worshippers. I am thus far, far from impressed. You guys give him WAY too much credit and have an absurd blind faith in all that he does. Face it, he committed an(other) error when he brought him here for that kind of money and that length of time. He wnated a big media splash (which he got); but we got f–ked. His decision making capabilities are flawed at best.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:05 pm
Lippy, I trust Omar but with blinders…we all know now that the Ring & Bell deal for Johnson and Atkins was a wash. But he had to get rid of Bell - he was not working in NY. He got us Pedro, and Pedro brought the swagger back to Queens. Omar to me is a smart business man, willing to take risks and often buys low and sells very high. Look what he turned a scrub like Kris Benson into? Duque and Maine - otherwise known as “bag of balls.” He gave up little for LoDuca and Delgado even. Changed the team dynamic right there. How bout Oh Pea for Nady? If you want to look at imbalance, look at the Beckett trade for the Sox. The one kid pitched a no hitter last year (his name is escaping me now) and the other one won ROY. The only thing I can “kill” Omar for, if anything, is not getting enough in return for Bell but hey…whatever. I normally give him the benny of the doubt for his moves. I don’t think he did enough to get Cordero but…whatever. His scouts know his prospects better than anybody so if they say no way to humber and pelf for cordero, I trust them. He’s built this team to last not just win one year. I think that may be a disconnect for most Mets fans. Not really lumping you into that Lippy but hey…whatever.
August 7th, 2007 at 12:11 pm
Um,
2002, 75W 86L 5th place
2003, 66W 95L 5th place
2004, 71W 91L 4th place
O enters as GM
2005 83W 79L 3rd place
2006 97W 65L 1st place
2007 55W 43L Still in 1st
I think O is doing a great job…every signing can’t be a winner. But he’s done the right move move often than not…
You can’t back you ridiculous Beltran bashing, so you turn to O…nice
BTW, nicely CW, couldn’t of said it better…
August 7th, 2007 at 12:22 pm
You all will see. I took TONS of abuse when I called for Down’s head. EVERYTHING I say is dead on balls accurate. You will see that Beltran will leave NYC (at least the Mets) and then when he does, you’ll all praise Omar about what a brilliant move he made be getting rid of him. I know the game. I just hope that the Mets will have won the World Series when Beltran is shopped, because if they don’t win it, Beltran will be high in the running for the reason WHY they didn’t win it. I like how he’s out for the Atlanta series, too.
I swear, does Omar give you guys free tix or something?
August 7th, 2007 at 12:27 pm
Hmmmm, Lippy I usually agree with you on pretty much everything…even the Down thing, which I predicted back when I started writing for FU this year. But Beltran will be FAR from the reason the mets won’t win the World Series. Yes, it’s easy to say he took the third strike and killed a rally that ended the NLCS but let’s be fair…we can go back to Game 2 and see that it was Mota’s ineptness as a relief man and Green’s muffed plays that ruined that…Trashball killed it for us before we began in St Loo…and Game 7, it was lost after Endy made “the catch.” If Beltran was the poster boy for the failure to make the WS last year so be it but it’s easy that way. If the Mets don’t make it to the big show or lose it, believe me, we’ll find plenty of reasons why they didn’t. Like now - the underachievement of the whole team and the whole - oh well, we lost, big deal attitude.
And for the record, I wish Omar gave me free tix but with the Mets making it to the post season last year, they actually RAISED my prices, thank you very much!
August 7th, 2007 at 12:28 pm
Also, numbers guys are peons in business. Your spreadsheet sucks. Whoops, you can’t go home tonight. I need revisions. This cut and paste slop you put on my desk looks liek somethign the intern did.
Numbers: How many times has Beltran WON a game for the Mets. How many of his RBI have been when the Mets are behind. How many of those 41 sounveniers were walk offs or come from behind hits, or game tyiing hits.
Real Simple: when you’re ahead, you see good pitches - especiallywhen you’re batting 3rd and are proteced by the middle of the order. It’s the Me vs. the We.
Liek I say, he’s gonzo and you all will jump right on the bandwagon with Omar.
Whatever.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:02 pm
Lip, gotta live in your world for a day…Your always right, but can’t back anything up with facts…One day your cursing the team saying the season is over and we have no shot at the PS, and then your declaring that we’re bound for the WS…just keep throwing your s**t against the wall, some of it will stick
You’d be right if you said that numbers didn’t give the whole story…but the don’t lie…so here you go…
Beltran 2006
With Runners on: .317 21HR (4th over all)
With RISP: .293 13 HR and 84RBI
RISP 2 out. 42AB .310 5HR 28RBI
Late Close. .299 .422OBP 4hr 21RBIs
This year there is a drop off
Late and close: 35AB 1HR 7RBI, not bad but his BA is real low. the thing that sticks out is he has 14BB already (to match his total from last year) looking past the numbers, to me that means that he’s getting pitched around in close situations.
So you know, I was bashing Down from the beginning… I’m not a big Beltran Fan, I’m just realistic about him…and O doesn’t give me free tickets, but he did give me a reason to watch and a chance for the PS…
August 7th, 2007 at 1:09 pm
another thing about this so-called “protection” is that Beltran really hasn’t had any this year. Last year some guy named Delgado was raking after him and Beltran was confident waiting for his pitches. If you noticed in April, he still had that carry-over from last year but when pitchers realized that Delgado was after him, it didn’t really matter what Beltran did. He started to panic. This is something no one seems to mention or conveniently forgets. I think the Delgado production or lack thereof is what’s killing the team, Beltran’s is just secondary.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:11 pm
What happened to the new, mellower Lip from last week? I knew that had to be a hacker using his screen name.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:19 pm
This is a ridiculous post. You don’t trade Carlos Beltran. You can’t trade Carlos Beltran. Who can you trade him for? Honestly, who would you trade Carlos Beltran for and do you think the other team would go for it?
Let’s look at some of the “Premier” CF’s in the game:
Andruw Jones - doesn’t compare
Damon - Doesn’t compare
Crisp - Doesn’t compare
Granderson - Nice, but doesn’t have the power
Laynce Nix - Lance with a y, ’nuff said
Ichiro, Pie, Pierre - Beltran is in a different class
The only guys I would call a poor man’s Beltran is Vernon Wells, Mike Cameron, Grady Sizemore and Torii Hunter. Just wait to see what Hunter gets in the offseason.
August 7th, 2007 at 1:33 pm
All I can say is “Lance with a ‘Y’ ” - LOL!!!
August 7th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
PM you forgot about the U in AndrUUUUUw Jones…
August 7th, 2007 at 2:06 pm
i consider myself a fair and balanced Met fan but i’m reallly tiring of Beltran’s forever underachieving ways
even ’06’s power numbers his .275 BA left something to be desired considering his talent
believe me we can get a LOAD of talent in exchance for Beltran since as people pointed out his salary will fall in line with CF’rs
the questionis does Beltran continue a downwartd trend in numbers thus decreasing his trade value or will he return to the 41/116 level?
i worry he’ll continue to be injury prone
August 7th, 2007 at 2:21 pm
beltran is a hump and cannot be relied on.. he can’t even figure out how to get rid of that raisin on his face.. he might as well be a field hockey player
August 7th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
I agree with some of the issues with Beltran’s play, but don’t agree the team should trade him. We all hope MMM will become a superstar, but until he is, I don’t think you trade away a guy who, at the least, is an outstanding fielder and a quality run producer. No, he may not be worth the money he’s making, but show me the list of players that do more than he does… it’s short.
KEEP IT UP ‘STINGS!
GET HEALTHY ‘TRAN!
EFF THE BRAVES!
LONG LIVE THE PHANATIC!
August 7th, 2007 at 3:45 pm
CW had it exactly right - how can we get better by trading Beltran?
and Coop is right : Delgado is killing us …
and not that both these guys can still get hot and blow away this division..
lets focus on beating the crap out of the Braves instead of talk about trading our best player w/an immovable contract …
August 7th, 2007 at 3:46 pm
Heading out the door to Shea!!! Heard on the radio that Oh Pea has all three Met victories against the Braves so far this year. Hope tonite is no differentl
August 7th, 2007 at 3:48 pm
What downward trend? His power numbers went way up last year and his BA was right around average for him. other than his BA being a little low and his production w/ RISP is down, he’s right were he should be. Maybe the lack of protection mentioned earlier is hurting his power numbers too.
Kill him because he’s hurt all the time, kill him for his thin skin, but nobody should expect .300BA + 125RBI and 40HRs… He’s a .275 hitter with 30HR 110RBI 20SB guy…Thats it, what makes anyone think he is underachieving?
August 7th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
I’ll tell you what: I’d rather be able to start a Lincecum against Atlanta and take my chances by not haivng Mr. Marvelous 5 toolbox outfielder.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
@ Lip
then i’d call you an idiot
you predicted rick down–BRAVO!
Typical sh!t-tosser who hopes his nonsense sticks
I’ve read this blog for a total of 5 minutes and i already dislike your comments…
You remind me of someone else on another blog who thinks he “gets it” while very few others do
August 7th, 2007 at 4:14 pm
Right here, Roach.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:32 pm
Oh boy. While The Lip may have “radical” views, they are more than welcome here at BMF. Some of us may not agree with him, but we still love his refreshing views. Who’s wit me?
August 7th, 2007 at 4:35 pm
beltran is a p*ssy plain and simple.. i’m not saying trade him.. but get him some *ss or something.. learn how to be a man.. i’d trade hunter for him any day of the week.. they just gave byrnes a 3 yr 30 mill deal.. a-rod is gonna get some serious $
August 7th, 2007 at 4:42 pm
I’m wit ya Coop! Matt the Met Fan is crazy!
August 7th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
Thanks, Coop!
I wonder if I can guess which mystery site Raoch regularly reads which doesn’t care to rock the boat.
August 7th, 2007 at 4:49 pm
Why can’t we keep Beltran and Milledge and phase out Shawn Green?
August 7th, 2007 at 4:51 pm
Sorry Coop, I’m not gonna back you up on that one…MtMF is a Islanders fan in disguise…
August 7th, 2007 at 5:01 pm
What does MtMF have to do with me defending Lippy? I *heart* Matt, he knows that and I think everyone on the board knows that! (did i miss something?)
Pete - I like your idea. Shawn Green kills me.
August 7th, 2007 at 5:02 pm
Oh and Lippy…I think we all know that. Probably the same site when I criticized Beltran, I was told that I was an idiot and my drivel wasn’t appreciated.
August 7th, 2007 at 5:03 pm
Honestly i don’t know what all this Beltran hub-bub is all about. I think Shawn Green put it best when he said, “Informer, You know say daddy me snow me-a gon blame,
A licky boom-boom down
‘Tective man he say, say Daddy Me Snow me stab someone down the lane
A licky boom-boom down”
August 7th, 2007 at 5:04 pm
Okay
A. USMF - HATE the Islanders .. and you know that more than anyone .. please how did that Yashin thing work out for you?
B. PHANATIC - how many losses …ten million? by the way, are the Flyers close behind?
C. Although don’t agree w/the Lip and his third person references I respect his/her opinion and his right to post it here ..
August 7th, 2007 at 5:07 pm
Sorry Matt, I forgot, you love the Devils…:)
August 7th, 2007 at 5:08 pm
Phanatic?
“Licky boom-boom down?”
you are crazy my friend …
August 7th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
BTW, Sabers fans jump off the bandwagon harder than Bills fans…it tons of fun to watch…
August 7th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
USMF .. you are really hurting me now .. cut off from all beers …
August 7th, 2007 at 5:11 pm
I’m totally lost but this possibly the funniest thread list I have ever read on BMF!!!!
August 7th, 2007 at 5:15 pm
Licky Boom Boom Coop .. Licky Boom Boom ..
August 7th, 2007 at 5:16 pm
Nooooooo……I’m sorry, I take it all back….your a Penguins fan right?
OK seriously, Enjoy DRURY!
August 7th, 2007 at 5:16 pm
Yeah. I’m with Coop! About the Lip, and the thread, and wherever she wants to go. YEAH!
August 7th, 2007 at 5:18 pm
Licky Boom..licky Boom Boom to all!
August 7th, 2007 at 5:20 pm
Lodigs! When are we going to a Cyclones game, sista???
August 7th, 2007 at 5:20 pm
Y’all are nice and everything, but not sure if i want you to lick my boom boom. no offense intended of course.
August 7th, 2007 at 5:23 pm
Come here Phanatic…lets have ourselves a nice big man hug…
August 7th, 2007 at 5:23 pm
Well, if you put it that way… I’ll bring my copy of Beaches.
August 7th, 2007 at 5:25 pm
This is freaking hilarious! GO METS!!! F THE F’ING BRAVES!!
August 7th, 2007 at 5:26 pm
I know Licky Boom Boom USMF .. and you’re no Licky Boom Boom …
and I will enjoy Drury .. and Gomez .. and anyone else I can buy ..
off to Blondies now to watch the Mets smack the crap out of the Braves …
August 7th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
Coop, there is nothing funny about licky someones Boom Boom, Man hugs or Beaches…but your right F’ dem mudder ducking, dbl wide meth lab owning. cousin loving or “cuz lovin” as it’s known in some dar parts, toothless, Neck-carr watching Squaws.
August 7th, 2007 at 5:35 pm
lippy i’m in full support of you expessing your views on any Met related topic and even some others
this is a blog and therefore an open forum for everyone who clicks on
the beauty about BMF is the discussion is almost always intelligent, above board and ALWAYS passionate!!!
even if you’re a staunch CB supporter you’ve got admit that the guy kills us WAY more than he should
August 7th, 2007 at 5:38 pm
Yes, i agree wholeheartedly with Sanchez. BMF is where i go for “intelligent, above board” commentary. I’m wearing big boy pants. Go Phils! EF the Braves!
August 7th, 2007 at 5:40 pm
Licky Boom???
August 7th, 2007 at 5:43 pm
big boy pants. OK I’m done for the night. Check ya later!!! (MtMF, have fun at Blondies, have a draft or three for Coop!)
Licky boom boom USMF!
August 7th, 2007 at 10:04 pm
I’ve got to tip my cap and it’s to BMF becasue he runs the AUTHENTIC fansite - period. I may not always agree with you all; but you guys know your stuff and are die har and that’s what matters. It’s a motley crew foe shizzle; but we get it done.
Omar’s follies:
ScSc
Mota
delgado
BELTRAN
I like Green, yet others do not - those who do, look to Omar
Julio Franco
David Newhan
Alou - I love the guy - he;s great; but 40% of the year
Pedro - love him; but come one where is he
Is this REALLY a legendary GM? Don; tthink so. Nobody’s writing about him other than some crack a-s suburban “reporter” who dreams of ebign Roger Kahn. Omar: get your head out of your a-s or get the f–k out of town.
August 8th, 2007 at 12:42 am
A Met fan named Matt Murphy from Queens caught 756. If you read this Matt, you got next round.
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:30 am
As much as I hate the corporate name… Like it’s Shea Stadium and not SheaStadium — it’s Citi Field and not CitiField.
April 9th, 2010 at 12:55 am
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