Shhhhh Jason Bay is Sleeping… Again

Remember a few weeks back when it looked like Bay was actually beginning to resemble a player who might be able to regain something close to his once feared self. Well that’s no longer the case.

I hate to stir this up again, because I’m sick of hearing, talking and thinking about how crappy Jason Bay is but the guy is in a 2-45 stretch.

Back to Awful.

Bay’s batting average now stands at .229 for the year.

BLEECCKKKK!

What a friggin’ catastrophe this dude has turned into.

Pelfrey wasn’t bad last - much better then his numbers indicate. 

Pelf has a VERY big Sept coming up so I’d love to see him finish some of these good starts.

24 Responses to “Shhhhh Jason Bay is Sleeping… Again”

  1. buck Says:

    I disagree entirely on Pelfrey! He consistently totally disentegrates whenever there is any turmoil. The guy has the competitive mental capacity of a marshmallow! And also, just for the record…..who didnt already know that Pelfrey would implode in the 7th inning there? I called it as I was sitting my couch! He made the last out in the bottom of the 6th and I was wondering what TC was doing letting him stay in and hit for himself. Anyone else feel the same way?

  2. buck Says:

    Remembered the game wrong. Pelf actually ended the inning in the bottom of the 5th not 6th. But in the 6th he loaded the bases after 2 outs by a single and stolen base, 2 walks and then he got Sanchez to popout. In any case, TC should have known he was done right there! No way should he have come out for the 7th!

  3. USMF Says:

    Yeah, 116 pitches to get 18 outs isn’t good…especially pitching to the Fish who can’t hit or win right now.

    If he posted that line vs. the Spanks, Philly, Brews or Sox, or any other good hitting team, you might be OK with it. Dude hasn’t missed a game all year, but he’d be lucky to top 200innings. These 5 (maybe 6) innings games that he leaves with tons of runners on base and gives up 4 runs was unacceptable when Perez did it, when Maine did it and it’s not OK for Pelf either.

    I think if Cashman offered AJ for Pelf I’d take it… it kills me that he’s gonna get 6mil+ next year.

  4. IrishMike Says:

    “I think if Cashman offered AJ for Pelf I’d take it”

    Interesting. I’d probably take it too. Can you imagine Pelf with the Yanks? He struggles and fidgets enough with the mediocre Mets and their half asleep fan base - under the glare of Yankee Stadium and the Yanks fan base he would almost certainly chew his hands off by June 1st.

  5. keefherny17 Says:

    Small Pelf just ain’t got what it takes to pitch in NY. Get him to KC or Pittsburgh. And USMF, it kills you that pelf is gonna get $6 mill, what about that scrub LFer? That makes me sick…

  6. Florida Met Fan Rich Says:

    “Oh those base on balls”, walking the eighth man? Are you kidding me!

    That badly executed “Wheel Play” would have never happend if Pelf doesn’t walk the 8th man in the order….The pitcher would have never batted!

    I can’t count high enough to determine how many things went wrong with that “Wheel Play”

  7. USMF Says:

    I like Bay, he sucks and it bothers me that we pay him a ton and he hasn’t found any kind of consistency.

    But Pelf is different, Bay got that contact because he’s put up big numbers in Pitt and Boston. Sure, he’s not earning it now, but his numbers showed that he at least deserved a big contract.

    Pelf is gonna get a raise from arbitration after having a completely crappy year…he had 3/4 of a good year last year and the rest of his time he’s been below average at best. But dude is gonna get more money anyways.

    Bay I still believe that he can turn things around, he plays hard in the field and is a smart player. I wish he’d move a little closer to the plate, and stop making adjustments every time he bats.

    Because Bay tries to get better (too hard I think) and does show at times that he can still hit. And even last year, he was still on his way to getting 100RBI even though the HRs weren’t there and because he produced the numbers to earn the contract, I’m not so bothered by it.

    Little Pelf’s proved nothing…he’s an automatic L every 5th day in my book. He hasn’t learned any new pitches, hasn’t learned how to pitch with what he’s got and he brings nothing to the table…he can’t hit, field, pitch deep into games, or Strike anyone out…he’s a sinker ball pitcher without a sinker. Not only does he suck, but he taxes our already weak bullpen and puts the rest of the team in the hole…

  8. JoMama Says:

    Pelf blows, no two ways about it - he’s middle relief on a decent team, at best. Now hindsight being 20/20, would you really want someone in our pen starting the 7th? I do agree though, that after he let 2 on with no out, TC should have pulled him but again, I bet he was thinking there’s really no one better he could go to.

    As for Bay, I don’t even wanna get into it. He’s just plain awful - not Dunn awful but very, very close. He should move back to Canada and Iggy should move back to Japan.

  9. Lord Charles Says:

    “I can’t count high enough to determine how many things went wrong with that ‘Wheel Play.’”

    I can: 1, maybe two.

    Turner has to, has to, has to cover 1B.

    I’ve been watching baseball for almost 30 years, including the BobbyV years, when the wheel was basically used once a game, and I can never remember a scenario…

    Maybe we could also blame Pelfrey for not throwing a pickoff attempt, but it still boils down to the fact that… Turner has to, has to, has to cover 1B.

  10. Lord Charles Says:

    Sorry, should read:

    “I can never remember a scenario where the 2b does not cover first on the wheel play.”

  11. ProfessorReyes Says:

    LC you hit one of my peeves about Pelf, that he doesn’t throw over enough.
    I didn’t see the game so I don’t know what a pickoff move would’ve meant to any play there, but Pelf sets my teeth on edge the way he lets baserunners do their thing out there.

  12. Florida Met Fan Rich Says:

    ^Lord Charles- more than that!
    1) It looked like they were trying to pick off The runner at 2nd base, Justin Turner was that close to second base, make a pick off throw!

    2) If you are not sure about the pick off play, Pelf could have stepped off the rubber.

    3)Thole or someone else could have asked for time out or reset the signs with Pelf.

    4) Wright could have tried to get the lead runner, he got to the ball that quick. I know he was moving towards first base.

    5) Pelf could have c overed first base!

  13. foxster Says:

    isn’t it odd that as soon as soon as Jason Bay arrived in NY, he just forgot how to hit and drive runs in. maybe it’s the air in CitiField thats choking him and carries over to the other NL parks as well. maybe he’s the last gasp of GM Omar”s glorious tenure as a Mets Executive in chartge of trades and hardly free agents.

  14. Lord Charles Says:

    ^1, 2, and 3 I agree with, but that is really before the play; I was specifically talking about the actual play itself.

    I disagree on #4. Wright would have had to throw the ball off-balance, across his body, and with momentum to a moving Reyes. 9 times out of 10, that ball goes into LF. With the wheel play, the whole idea is to get to 1B to field the ball so that he has an easy toss to third. If the opposing team executes well and forces the 3B to field the ball, then the proper play is to go to first, which is why Turner has to be covering. Honestly, unless you have Keith Hernandez playing 1st, I really dislike the wheel play. The offense is basically giving you an out and your response is to do something that decreases the likelihood of you actually recording an out.

    Having the pitcher cover is not an option as he would be running away from the ball; you are basically setting him up to break an ankle/get killed.

  15. keefherny17 Says:

    Bays had 2 seasons to pull his ish together!!

  16. Lord Charles Says:

    ^Speaking of Bay, please tell me that the Daily News report about the Mets moving Bay to CF and Murphy to LF, is just another example of Andy Martino feeding the trolls.

    That can’t be serious.

    Murphy-Bay-Duda wouldn’t be able to adequately cover the OF in Lamade Stadium in Williamsport…

  17. JoMama Says:

    I thought that play was to 3rd given the scenario?

  18. buck Says:

    Not to sound racist because I certainly am not……but picturing an outfield of Murphy - Bay- Duda got me thinking of when was the last time anyone saw an outfield of all white players?? I can’t think of one.

  19. Lord Charles Says:

    JoMama,

    The play is designed to go to 3rd, but only when the ball is fielded by the 1B, C, or P, or is bunted very hard to the 3B, which is going to be most of the time. In this case, Vasquez happened to put down a perfect bunt, so the play should have been to first.

    buck,

    Not that uncommon; if I had to guess at least one team a year has this. The Nationals do, and until they traded for Beltran, so did the Giants.

  20. KMac Says:

    The problem with the wheel play last night was that they didn’t want Jose running hard all the way to 3B. He started halfway to 3B which meant that Turner had to hold the runner at 2B or he would have gotten such a big lead and secondary lead there would be no shot at getting him. Turner did what he was supposed to for the way that play was designed. The throw HAS to go to 3B. There were no other options. The runner on first had a huge lead and secondary because Evans charged so far. Vasquez made a good enough bunt to defeat the play. The blame is on TC for the design and DW for not making the throw.

  21. BlondiesJake Says:

    Turner couldn’t cover first because he was practically standing on 2B as the ball was bunted. I’m not sure why, but he had no shot to get to the bag.

    Nuke LaLoosh is a disaster and even wearing women’s underwear wouldn’t help him. But if he did, he should remember the rose goes in the front.

    As for Bay, I’d rather see him in CF than Dumb As A Box Of Pagans but don’t think it’s a good idea to put Murphy back in the outfield.

  22. USMF Says:

    I said it yesterday, I’d rather have Wright in the OF and put Murph at 3rd…

    I’m not sure how Wright would handle the OF, but it couldn’t be worse than Murph.

    Let’s be honest, other than running in, bare-handing the ball and throwing…Wright is no real valuable skills at 3rd. At least Murph has a decent arm.

    I think that’ll be our best D…but Bay isn’t good enough to play center when Duda and Wright/Murph are manning the corners.

  23. the dude formerly known as bill l. Says:

    As LC said of that outfield earlier ‘that can’t be serious.’ It can’t, can it?

  24. BrooklynBil Says:

    Seriously. Time is up for making excuses for Bay, don’t care if it looks like he’s trying. The guy is the very definition of a NY Bust.

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