Is Duda Officially a Beast Yet?

Well, I suppose it’s still too soon to officially call Duda a beast but I’m telling you he’s on his way to beastdom.

The guys is a slow starter but once he gets comfortable his water finds it’s level and that’s often beyond the OF wall.

Duda launched his 7th bomb of the year and now looks fully up to speed. If you recall he started very slowly last season with a huge o-fer before feasting on september pitching.

Vance Worley kicked our ass after we let him off the hook in the first inning once Pagan and Tejada set the table.

Word is Niese is headed to the DL with a tweaked back incurred during his last start. And with a double header on tap next week the Mets will summon 2 arms from below. 

The possible candidates are: Miguel Batista, Pat Misch, and/or Chris Schwinden.

Wow, how’s that for an underwhelming pool of pitching options.

Remember when this team was exciting to watch a few weeks back? 

Yeah well no more.

24 Responses to “Is Duda Officially a Beast Yet?”

  1. BrooklynBill Says:

    If the Mets squander on opportunity to eval some young pitching talent on a washed up Miguel Batista, I may have to renounce my fandom.

  2. Lord Charles Says:

    Too soon to call Duda a beast. Don’t forget, he is 25, and it is rare for players beyond the age of 25 to make large jumps in performance, other than those that come from more playing time. I’d be surprised if Duda’s ceiling was more than .280/.380/.480 with 25 HRs.

    I would also sign for that in a second for the next 3-4 years…

  3. BrooklynBill Says:

    Repeating my post from yesterday, can’t help it I’m in a very foul fan mood lately…we should have been more of a seller at the deadline.

    This is how we oughta be projecting Lucas Duda’s stats for next year:

    let a = probability of injury
    let b = probability of med staff diagnosing correctly
    let c = probability of rehab setback

    Now, lets say a = 50% b=.01% and c=75%

    Now, lets adjust variables a, b, & c based on a statistical sample data on NY Met players from our friends at Elias:

    a = 65%, b=.001% , c = 95%

    Now, using the MS Excel function calcSeasonEndingInjuryFactor(a,b,c) developed by Paul D. Podesta and IBM, we can safely project Lucas Duda’s #s over a theoretical 162 games:

    10 HR 50 RBI 19 2B

  4. Lord Charles Says:

    Sorry, but I think the “Mets should have been more of a seller”-meme is revisionist history. The Mets traded an untradeble player with a poisonous option and got a stud prospect for a 2-month rental who can’t be offered arbitration. To ask for anything more is ridiculous when you consider that they wouldn’t have gotten anything for anyone left on the roster.

  5. Lord Charles Says:

    Actually, wait, there is one player the Mets could have gotten something for: Reyes.

  6. BlondiesJake Says:

    LC, I think they could’ve moved Izzy and Capuano for something, but certainly not an organization’s top prospects.

    As to Duda, I think what we’re seeing could very well be what the Mets will get with consistent ABs and as you said, I’d sign up for that.

  7. Florida Met Fan Rich Says:

    ^BrooklynBill- I am on board with you! I actually thought we were going to move more players also.

    Reyes, Izzy, Byrdak could have brought back value then. They were all playing great then and were at their highest trade potential.

    I believe the business aspect came into play. The worst thing we could have done was swept the Reds. That gave Mgt. some hope of contending for the WC (Which was BS anyway). It also allowed them to keep the rest of the team intact in or to try to salvage “Butts in Sests”.

    If they want to make money they should be selling paper bags, blidfolds, tree and rope kits.

    Better yet have “Free Psyciatric Evaluation Night”, if you go to a game the rest of the year you need this!

  8. Lord Charles Says:

    Jake,

    I agree, but in my opinion, you should only trade major league players for two reasons: add organization depth or to shed a lot of salary. Trading guys who aren’t making that much for C/C- prospects in July just doesn’t make any sense to me. The Mets have enough of their own crap in the minors to need to be adding other teams.

    I still think the Wagner trade was a terrible move, especially when you consider that the Sox ended up getting the 20th pick in the 1st round when he signed with ATL.

  9. BlondiesJake Says:

    LC, agree to some extent but Wagner was a different case. Izzy, Capuano, Byrdak aren’t getting signed with some team that would result in any sort of high draft pick. I think they could’ve brought back decent prospects who had some potential, not crap. But I don’t know what was offered so can’t say definitively. And keeping them didn’t block prospects from getting major chances nor will it lead to future organizational issues like K-Rod would’ve so not the worst non-moves by any stretch.

  10. Fort Greene Met Fan Says:

    I didn’t think we would sell more unless we really had a chance to, as LC stated, shed salary or get prospects. Were we really going to get anything for Izzy? I would have traded Pagan and Murphy when their values were higher but that’s definitely off now.

    These last two games were absolute train wrecks and I couldn’t bear to watch or listen for more than a couple innings.

  11. Common Sense Says:

    “Sorry, but I think the “Mets should have been more of a seller”-meme is revisionist history. ”

    Not true. They should have unloaded Wright and Reyes after the second great collapse - 2008.

    As for this year, Wright’s value was probably too low due to his back injury, so I’ll give them a pass there.

    However, Dog Reyes, who disappeared during the great collapses, handed the Mess a gift with his first half performance. His stock was high and the risk of a hammy was imminent (documented by me in an email to a friend prior to the first hamstring injury.)

    However, the Mess held on to this brittle head case because the Wilpons still think he’s a marquee player who puts fans in seats. They still don’t understand that fans want a winning team and that Reyes will never be part of a winning team.

    His value was the highest it will ever be and they f**ked up by not unloading him, his brittle hamstrings, and the bad memories that hang on him and Wright like skunk.

    Now, here’s the scenario: the Mess look like fools if they don’t resign him. A good agent (does the dog use Boras?) will gin up the bidding with other teams and force the Mess to sign this dog for more time and more money than he is worth.

    Once he has a long-term guarantee in place, Dog Reyes will practially live on the DL.

    Nice moves on KRod and Beltran - I acknowledge that - but Dog Reyes gave the Mess the gift of a smoking first half and they misplayed their hand.

    I’m looking forward to an average of 400 plate apprearances and 80 runs scored for $150 million over the duration of the foolish deal the Mess will lay on Dog Reyes this winter.

  12. JoMama Says:

    I absolutely loathe turning the game off in the 6th inning - it’s really a pet peeve of mine but the last 2 nights, I’ve done just that. After seeing the bases juiced with no outs in the 6th (or 5th, whatever) and TC going to the pen, I knew it was over. Lo and behold, I turn my head again and it’s 9-zip - I have no idea how they cleared the bases, nor do I care, I just hate seeing all that red waving and cheering for chumps like Mayberry. This team has been playing over its head for the entire season (thanks to Jose and Beltran) and now we see the reality of weak pitching, some untimely injuries and a pen that’s overworked. What kills me is that it’s not getting better for 2012, 2013, etc - but you know we’ll all keep watching.

  13. JoMama Says:

    CommonSense - I don’t know who you are or if you’re a regular using a new moniker but please, hindsight is 20/20 - quit yapping about “shoulda this, coulda that” - it’s makes you look like an idiot. So you’re the smartest guy in baseball ranting on a Mets blog about what they should have done and how NOW it’s a bad move. The last month or so aside, we were still single digits back of the WC and had a somewhat decent shot at it but of course you knew the collapse was imminent and that we should have been unloading all along. Get off your high horse - Reyes injuries have been debated all over the blogsphere ad nauseum and the conclusion is that the perception he’s hurt more is exacerbated because the Mets rely on him more than any player. In reality, he’s not that injury prone. Again, I have no clue who you are but from your little diatribe, it’s clear you one of those “told ya so” chumps.

  14. IrishMike Says:

    “They should have unloaded Wright and Reyes after the second great collapse - 2008.”

    For who? Are you saying the collapses were Reyes fault? In 2008 he led the league in plate appearances, hits, had an OPS+ of 118 and was making way less than market value. Talk about revisionist history.

    And what didn’t you like about Wright’s 2008 season? His 160 games played? His 124 RBI’s? His 141 OPS+? His gold glove?

    So the Mets erred by not unloading two of the best players in the league, both of who were making well under their market value? Please.

    “Reyes will never be part of a winning team.”

    What was 2006?

  15. Lord Charles Says:

    Trading Wright and Reyes the season before opening a new stadium. Yeah, that makes sense…

  16. Common Sense Says:

    Not revisionist history. I won’t post private emails here but I have been advocating a tear-down of this team since the second collapse, and a tear-down means moving Wright and Reyes.

    JoMama - don’t know where to start with you. I’ll start with the word “rant” - this is a favorite of people who are incapable of presenting a cogent argument. Just call the other guy’s opinion a “rant” and you’re done. Wasn’t that easy?

    We were never in the race. Again, I won’t post emails but friends and I laughed at the Charlie-Brownish optimism in the air when the Mutts were “only” 8 games behind Atlanta. Did you look at Atlanta’s team ERA back then? It was about 3.02. I wrote to friend that you don’t catch a 3.02 ERA team with Mike Pelfrey as your ace. I don’t claim to be the smartest guy in any room but I’m pretty close when I hang out here - the idiocy is so well-documented. I still see the same slavish Omar apologists here with their new, updated stupidity.

    BTW, I have money on the Vegas “under” for the Mess of 79 wins - no revisionist here. I knew they would suck and put money on it.

    Not saying the collapse was the fault of Wright and Reyes. I’m saying they were part of historic collapses and are associated with losing. Atlanta, a smarter org than the Mutts on their dumbest day, would have cleaned house after that. Both players had value, so, to the guy who asked ‘for whom’ would they have traded them - i say I don’t know. Not my job. Actually, maybe it’s good that they didn’t trade them bc Omar, your so-loved GM, would have f**ket that up beyond imagination.

    Back to JoMama - I forgot that you also called my post a “diatribe.” Lazy, lazy, lazy.

    Who ref’d to 2006? You call that “winning”? Going down in 7 to a team with 14 or 15 fewer regualar-season wins? Are you happy with that year? You must have loved 1988 also. Golden Boy Omar bet it all on 2006 and look what followed. Take a look at the payroll and the handcuffs 2006 put on the team (that con man Pedro laughing all the way to the bank).

    “Trading Wright and Reyes the season before opening a new stadium. Yeah, that makes sense… ”

    And how has the alternative - keeping them - worked out? Worst-case scenario. NY laughing stock. Miles behind the Phillies.

    “the perception he’s hurt more is exacerbated ”

    I perceive Reyes to be on the disabled list for the second time in two months.

    Anyway, the numbers tell the story. This is, as the owner himself said, a s**tty team. I have been saying so for a long time.

    “it’s clear you one of those “told ya so” chumps. ”

    Wrong. I told you omar was a dog way ahead of time. I told you pedro was a con man way ahead of time. I told you the wilpons are the real reason this team is dreadful. I told you the way to fix this is to boycott, kill the attendance, and force the wilpons to sell. I’m not here to look smarter. I’m here to get back the f**king team I was raised to love. Your wrath and vitriol towards truth-tellers like me, to use your word, “exacerbates” the problem.

    You have the team you asked for. If you want a better team, speak early, get angry, stay away. Otherwise our next ring is 2025 or later, almost 40 years after 1986.

  17. JoMama Says:

    Hey LackingCommonSense - let’s see all those posts and your Vegas receipt. I love you sputtering nonsense like this after the fact - pretty intelligent. You sound like you’re in 6th grade with the “told ya so’s” - and the reiterating of the numbers after all is said and done. The reason I’m not arguing with you is because all you do is state facts now and call them your own - how is that posing any sort of good argument? All I got in your most recent reply was “Ya, I knew that all along” - talk about a joker.

  18. IrishMike Says:

    “Both players had value, so, to the guy who asked ‘for whom’ would they have traded them - i say I don’t know. Not my job.”

    That was me. So you just make the sweeping statement to get rid of two of the best players in the league (no question they were in 2006-08) who were making relative peanuts but don’t offer any real solution to prove that your brilliant idea would have made the Mets better. Kudos.

    “Actually, maybe it’s good that they didn’t trade them bc Omar, your so-loved GM, would have f**ket that up beyond imagination.”

    Go through the archives since this blog started and find one positive thing I ever said about Omar.

    “Who ref’d to 2006? You call that “winning”? Going down in 7 to a team with 14 or 15 fewer regualar-season wins? Are you happy with that year?”

    Me again. And yes I enjoyed the hell out of that year - went to more games than I had in years with good friends and felt the excitement of watching a great team ride their way to their best season in years. I also enjoyed the Dodger series sweep. I did not enjoy the Cardinal series games I went to - the Game 2 choke by Billy Wagner nor the emotional ringer that was Game 7. But I did enjoy the journey that got the Mets to that point. World Series win or bust for you? No wonder you are such an angry jerk.

  19. ProfessorReyes Says:

    Wow. That guy’s smugness is impressive. I called the weather bureau to warn them a smug cloud is forming here.

    One has to wonder why one would hang around and bother to post such long comments to such inferior beings.

  20. Common Sense Says:

    Shoot the messenger.

    My words are true.

    I am part of the solution, not the problem.

    You are part of the problem, not the solution.

    Stop paying fred and jeff for this mess. Look at what the Mets have accomplished with Reyes and Wright. Bill Parcells says ‘you are what your record says you are.’

    What are Reyes and Wright?

    IrishMike - I am not a GM. I don’t know who was available for Reyes in Wright back in the day. So I don’t know who they could have rec’d in return but it would have been good.

    Jomama - you are wood-cuttin’ dumb. I have been posting here for 5 years under many names. Trust me when I say I was early on calling omar a dumb f**k and an urban legend. Or don’t. Your childish na-nah-na-NAH-nah retorts are entertaining by the way. And funny. Almost as funny as you paying up and wearing your orange and blue for opending day 2012 will be.

    Hey, while I’m at it - I also told you gangsta was bad news. The night he took over for randolph and hammed it up for reporters I knew he was a wingnut. But so many of you put your faith in him and defenced his getto philospher scthick.

    Anyway - thanks for helping to ruin my team. Jeff wilpon just read your heartfelt kneejerk responses and said ‘told you Dad, they love what we’re doing. Let’s resign Jose at all costs.”

    Thanks for making sure the team my father taught me to love will suck balls for another 15 years.

    Why do I hang around to make long posts? Because I hate the lack of logic and reason in this world. If there’s one place where emotion and blind faith can do damage, it’s in sports teams. Blind faith by the people here led us to minaya, sheffield, gangsta, bernazard, pedro, 2 chokes, countless embarrassments, krod.

    Sorry guys. Not smug. Not angry. Just armed with the facts and very sad over what my team has become and extra sad that fans like you enable the wilpons to keep destroying the mutts.

  21. IrishMike Says:

    You are doing what lawyers call “assuming facts not in evidence.” How do you know how much money I’ve spent on the Mets recently? (Hint: very little). Or anyone else here has for that matter (I haven’t heard many of the regular posters mention being at a particular game this year)? Who said “sign jose at all costs?” You are just making crap up and then refuting the crap that you are making up.

  22. ProfessorReyes Says:

    Wait. Let me check……

    “Again, I won’t post emails but friends and I laughed at the Charlie-Brownish optimism in the air when the Mutts were “only” 8 games behind Atlanta. Did you look at Atlanta’s team ERA back then? It was about 3.02. I wrote to friend that you don’t catch a 3.02 ERA team with Mike Pelfrey as your ace. I don’t claim to be the smartest guy in any room but I’m pretty close when I hang out here - the idiocy is so well-documented. I still see the same slavish Omar apologists here with their new, updated stupidity.”

    Yep. Smug.

    Although I think you use too many hyperbolic adjectives, I might give your comments more weight if you truly lived up to your claim that you are “part of the solution” by actually offering up some alternative acquisitions or coaching changes, beyond suggesting we dump everybody.

  23. BlondiesJake Says:

    Common Sense, you make some salient points and some stupid ones. I won’t go through them all, but here’s a couple I will comment on.

    Saying the Mets should’ve dealt two of the best position players in the team’s history when they were young and cheap is just laughable.

    Saying this team would be a mess is no genius statement but I agreed then and am not surprised now. But the new regime did take advantage of the play by K-Rod and Beltran to move salary and get prospects.

    Saying we should boycott the team is something I advocated previously but now that Alderson and staff are in place there’s reason to believe this team is moving in the right direction and people should feel free to attend if they wish.

    Finally, if you’re going to say, “I told you so,” then post with the same name as when you told us so.

  24. JoMama Says:

    “Finally, if you’re going to say, “I told you so,” then post with the same name as when you told us so.”

    EXACTLY. The dude is a total waste of space. You claim to have been saying all this nonsense for years - under various monikers - well prove it. Sounds to me like you’ve been hating the Mets since you were little - are you sure you’re not a closet Tankee fan? Your outright stupidity makes it seem like it….

    (just wait, your infantile retort will start with, “Well back in 2005 I said…” with again, no validation)

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