BoPa Stumbles

In a perfect world Bobby Parnell would seamlessly step into the closer role and we wouldn’t look back for years to come.

Izzy has gotten the first nod at closing but you have to assume Collins and Alderson are grooming BoPa for the role. 

There’s no real rush to get Parnell slamming the door but it sure would make a more comfortable winter if he shows us he can close games this year. 

Unfortunately Parnell blew the lead in the 8th in a game that we shoulda won.

The funny thing is is Parnell is a real closer he may perform better in the 9th than the 8th. The catch-22 is he may not get a shot at the 9th is he can’t hold the 8th.

Meanwhile David Wright has erupted morphing back into the homegrown star we all loved and believed in.

BMF feared a lingering back issue but judging by the last series the back is just fine. 

In fact I stand by the theory that Wright being forced to observe for weeks on end may have matured him in a way he was yet to evolve. Maybe sitting and watching a NY Met season from the sidelines helped him put the circus in perspective. In turn he may put less pressure on himself by taking all the NY media hyperbole in stride.

If we get the old Wright back and Reyes is resigned we’ve got a damn good jump on being competitive in 2012.

22 Responses to “BoPa Stumbles”

  1. BlondiesJake Says:

    I hope Wright stays closer to the plate like he did in the weekend series. It allowed him to reach and drive outside pitches and then crush others. Of course it’s just three games but it sure would be nice for the old DW to be back.

    His return, coupled with Santana getting ready for a rehab equals more reason for optimism as a Mets fan. Now if only they would sign Reyes, Ike would heal, Pelfrey would get mentally strong, ok enough dreaming for one post.

    Hope to see a bunch of you tonight at Blondies for Jake-A-Palooza (tho after an impromptu pub crawl last night I will be a little slow on the intake)!


  2. BrooklynBill Says:

    Yes, things are looking up. But, just to temper all the optimism a bit, with this most recent series loss, only game in the W column seperates us from the lowly Nats & Marlins…kinda puts things in perspective.

    I hope Sandy & his legion of SABR-Met Execs use our chips wisely this week…we need a 3-5 yr plan and we can’t let crazy 2011 WC dreams over the next 30 games or so distract us from the plan.

    Chances of making Blondie later about 30-40% :(

  3. Howard Says:

    I do not see any reason for optimism for 2012….

    1. No second baseman
    2. No catcher unless you consider Thole a player in which then I suggest you get some intervention
    3. Possibly no shortstop
    4. No left fielder
    5. No center fielder. As I originally thought, Pagan is a mediocre player on a bad team.
    5. No right fielder unless you see Duda as a player. Once again, get some intervention.
    6. Two starters I can count on if we consider Santana the old Santana for next year (Johan and Niese) I am starting to have enough of Dickey, Pelfrey stinks, Gee I am not sold on, and Capuano will probably get injured.
    7. No relief pitchers and especially no closer.

    But who knows, maybe Bay can come back next year and have a big season.. .240 BA, 7HR, 40RBI but I am probably way too hopeful for that. But fantasies do come true.

  4. Fort Greene Met Fan Says:

    BoPa?? Is Parnell a neighborhood or a person? ;)

  5. cleonjones Says:

    Howard, always think positive !!! You gotta believe !!! Lets go Mets !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  6. Lord Charles Says:

    Something I’ve been thinking about, with respect to Beltran: the Mets have basically said that they would be willing to eat most of Beltran’s contract so long as they get a top prospect in return. This leads me to believe that the amount of money they owe Beltran is not enough to impact what they want to do in the off-season (re-sign Reyes).

    That being the case, if it turns out that the Mets can’t get a top-tier prospect for Beltran, wouldn’t they be better off just keeping him? If the money is not an issue, why not go after a few more wins this season (which, by the way, would probably add to the team’s revenue)?

  7. USMF Says:

    1. No second baseman

    -I believe that we have severial 2nd base options…between Murph, Turner and Tejada we should be fine.

    2. No catcher unless you consider Thole a player in which then I suggest you get some intervention

    - I kinda agree with you on Thole, he can hit, but has been extremely streaky. His game behind the plate does worry me. He’s young and hasn’t been catching long, so maybe he can continue to improve…paired with a solid vet catcher, we should be OK.

    3. Possibly no shortstop

    -I think/hope Sandy is going to do everything he can to keep Reyes…just look at how his injury was handled and how Sandy is getting close to Reyes agents. But if Reyes goes, we are screwed…Tejada is nice, but he’s got a weak bat, slow legs and his D is good, but a little over rated.

    4. No left fielder

    -I like Bay, I hope he bounces back, I believe he can bounce back…but sadly he has not shown any consistency. I believe that his problems are all mental, I just don’t know how to get past them.

    5. No center fielder. As I originally thought, Pagan is a mediocre player on a bad team.

    -I’ve never been a Pagan guy. He’s got talent, but no brains. He gets injured all the time and has had only one good season. But we could do a lot worse in Center that Pagan…he does have great skills and plays hard and has the right attitude.

    5. No right fielder unless you see Duda as a player. Once again, get some intervention.

    -I’ve seen Duda in AAA severial games…he’s a monster there…but still don’t know why that doesn’t translate to the show. Maybe a full season may do him some good. But Duda isn’t our only young option to replace Beltran.

    6. Two starters I can count on if we consider Santana the old Santana for next year (Johan and Niese) I am starting to have enough of Dickey, Pelfrey stinks, Gee I am not sold on, and Capuano will probably get injured.

    -I have to agree with you on this one. I have hope on Gee, he’s young…Cappy needs to get past the 5th inning with out falling apart.

    7. No relief pitchers and especially no closer.

    -Relief pitchers come and go…they tend to have good years and then bad years. Luckily it seems that TC can manage a bull pen, that goes a long ways. I’m not sold on Parnell as a closer, I guess we won’t know until we try it. Look at (Taco) Bell, he was a joke in middle relief, but now he’s a stud closer.

    My optimism in 2012 is; look at all the thing that went wrong this year and yet this team has battled and has hung around .500 most the year. Some young players have stepped up and shown that they can play, some older players are showing leadership…bad contracts are leaving the books (expect Bay, hopefully he can earn it next year). If Reyes is back, I can see a step forward, if Reyes is gone, a step back…but I see a GM who has a plan and not one playing little dutch boy plugging last years holes while three other are opening up around him…

  8. BrooklynBill Says:

    USMF - Bay has shown consistency…he’s sucked all year and the year before that!

    Phillies are the class of the NL and unfortunately for us Mets fans, they are in our division…slight inconvenience. We need to bridge the gap somehow and I don’t see how resigning Reyes, keeping Beltran, etc etc does anything to do that if the complexion of the starting 5 (ours & theirs) remains the same. Assuming Santana comes back and he’s vintage Santana (big assumption), we still need a top flight starter at the front end of our rotation. Niese would be a very respectable #3. Gee has some upside, he knows how to pitch. Pelf is Pelf, nuff said. Capuano has been ok, he could be a nice #5. Another year after the TJ surgery and he could improve next season.

    The problem is there aren’t many top flight starters on the market (the Yankees wish). So, I fear we may be royally screwed for sometime…

  9. Florida Met Fan Rich Says:

    Can somebody please explain to me why we can’t beat the “Stinking Fish”? Right now they suck more than us and we win the first game and can’t win the series?

    With most the divisions almost decided and both wild cards almost locked up, there does not seem to be a large market of buyers at the trade deadline! I hope we can still get some good prospects and don’t get burned!

    Since we couldn’t bury the fish it looks like we have something to look forward to for the rest of the year

    A 3 way “battle for the basement!

  10. BrooklynBill Says:

    FMFR - 2 words: Gaby Sanchez!

    I can’t stand that guy…his batting stance is weird and he just looks funny (but I ain’t saying that to his face)

    Did you get to any of the games?

  11. Fort Greene Met Fan Says:

    Hmmm. As I’ve been saying for months, I think our biggest hole is pitching. I know we’ve done better than expected, but IMO neither this rotation nor the pen is good enough to get us into the post-season.

    After that my next issue is getting another big bat—someone in right, at 2nd, etc. We need some power to replace Beltran. Even with Beltran we could use more power.

    I think we are VERY weak at catcher—not impressed with Thole except for his ability to deal with the knuckler. He can’t really hit, he has NO arm, and I don’t see that he calls such a great game. He’s young and may improve, but I think we could be much better at this position.

    For the rest I think Pagan is sufficient at center, and with DW, Reyes, Ike, either Turner, Tejada or Murph at 2nd (or a platoon of these), Bay in left (his D is fine, hopefully one day he will hit again), we are good enough at these positions if the other areas are improved.

  12. USMF Says:

    BB- To be fair to Bay, other than not being able to hit HR’s, Bay was have a decent year last year before the concussion. He projected to have close to 40DBLs, 90+ RBIs and 10+ triples and score 90+ runs. This year he’s sucked, his brief hot streaks flair out too fast and his cold streaks are extremely bad.

    I do worry about Santana…there is no way to know what type of pitcher he’ll be. lets be honest, he wasn’t as good as we expected before the injury…he seems to be slipping every year. Good thing for him is; he’s a smart pitcher with guts and he doesn’t fall apart when every he gets into trouble.

    I like R.A.D. and Cappy, but neither can seem to go more than 5 innings…we need more from them. I have ZERO faith in Pelf.

    One thing to keep in mind with Philly, they’ve spent all their money for years to come. Halladay isn’t that young and is making 20mil per…Lee isn’t that young and has had injury problems, he’s due a 10mil raise next year and beyond. Oswalt isn’t young and has a 1mil option and gets hurt. Hamels is young, but has no contract for next year, he’s pitching himself to a huge raise.

    The Phils have dumped a lot of money into a great, but aging pitching staff. That will make them winners this year and next, but it could really hurt them in 2013 and beyond.

  13. BlondiesJake Says:

    BB, you’re right. You can definitely look at this team and assume the worst at every position. But last time I checked, the guys you dismissed (Murphy, Turner, Tejada at 2nd, Duda in RF) are young, have played well and have upside. They, like Gee, Niese and Parnell, are getting plenty of experience and performing solidly. While they may not be all-stars, history has proven you don’t need a team of all-stars to win.

    Outfield is probably the biggest concern outside pitching, but also the easiest to fill. If they re-sign Reyes (which seems likely) and Ike returns (which seems possible if not probable), the Mets will have one of the best, if not the best, infields in the game, offensively and defensively. If they can turn Beltran and maybe Izzy or Capuano into pitching and/or outfield prospects, this team will be in good shape for years to come, especially since I believe Alderson knows what he’s doing.

  14. BlondiesJake Says:

    Apologies, BB, my post should’ve been addresses to Howard, who is as negative as any person I’ve ever had the displeasure of reading.

  15. ProfessorReyes Says:

    Honestly, I’m bored. Can’t wait for trades, etc.

  16. Howard Says:

    BlondiesJake…. Realistic, not negative. If you are happy with being out of the race each year before August hits, then we do not need to drastically change the team.

    I agree that the pitching is the most serious issue. We have no idea how Johan will respond to surgery and we do not have one guy in the starting rotation that we can be confident in can lead us to a playoff berth one year. They are all terribly inconsistent. I gave Niese the benefit of the doubt though.

  17. BlondiesJake Says:

    Howard, let’s split the difference and call you a pessimist who likes to express his point-of-view a lot.

  18. Fort Greene Met Fan Says:

    Unfortunately can’t make it to Jake-A-Palooza tonight! One of these days we have to plan an event in Brooklyn…have fun!!!

  19. Met_Maven Says:

    The Met far system has a plethora of outfielders and a decent amount of infielders. Any gaps that may arise in either of those spots will be filled with little to no problem. Not necessarily all-star players, but solid guys who can get the job done. This team needs pitching. Badly. If this team had a healthy Santana and one more legitimate SP I think we would not only be in the WC hunt for real, but we’d probably be better than the Bravos. I have faith that Alderson will make the necessary moves and signings to make the team relevant again.


  20. BrooklynBill Says:

    Me and my posse of bruisin’ Canarsiens ain’t be making it over to Blondies tonite, maybe next time.

    No worries, BJ…it’s easy to get Howard & I mixed up, we’re both passionate fans who have had our fill of Jason Bay. Ok so TC is hell bent on letting him play his way out but does he have to bat him 6th!!??? This is the only beef I have with the job TC has done with this team so far…enough already, time to get in Bay’s face! Put him in the doghouse for a while, he needs a swift kick in the ass.

  21. BrooklynBill Says:

    Looks like Mets are doing $5 tix 8/1-8/3…good for them, smart move.

  22. BlondiesJake Says:

    FGMF and BB, sorry to have missed you. As I type this at 230am IrishMike and I are still drinking at Blondies. Jake-A-Palooza was a great event, the Mets won, Bay hit a double for the first time in forever, all is good!

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