Buh-Bye .500

Wave goodbye to the break even mark folks because I think that’s the last we’re gonna see it until 2012.

This latest loss is really discouraging. I mean 3 hits? Really, 3 hits vs the shitty Fish? 

I know we’ve got a AAA lineup out there but c’mon we can’t muster more than 3 hits??? Vs Clay Hensley? 

They somehow scratched out a run in the 9th thanks to Jason Bay who delivered RBI number 29 on the year! Oh man at this blistering rate he might finish upwards of 60 ribbies. 

What are we gonna do with Bay? I see the articles where he says he’s more frustrated than anyone but all he can do is keep at it. I don’t doubt either point but how long are we going to continue this charade?

Pagan is simply dead in the water - again. I don’t know what happened to this guy. He was one of the best kept secrets in baseball last year but now he can’t get a friggin hit. I think we need to take him out of the lead-off spot.

I’m not positive but I feel like his bat was heating up until he was pushed to lead-off. Maybe when Jose returns some pressure will lift from Pagan.

Capuano wasn’t terrible retiring the first 11 men he faced. He could have used some offensive support since it’s not unreasonable to get a win while allowing 4 runs … unless you’re facing Clay Hensley.

You know you’re in trouble when Willie Harris is your big bat.

22 Responses to “Buh-Bye .500”

  1. Paul Says:

    Angel Pagan is sure looking like a non-tender candidate at the end of the year, just like fellow disappointment Mike Pelfrey. Too bad Omar Minaya made sure that Jason Bay will be haunting us for a long time to come.

  2. Helix Says:

    Next stop: Mets Sucksville…

  3. BlondiesJake Says:

    The good news is the Mets are willing to eat some of Beltran’s salary in a trade, which means more teams can offer deals and the team can get the best prospects possible. I’d love to see him dealt to Pittsburgh and help the Pirates win the Central.

  4. cleonjones Says:

    Is this the start of the “slide”. I hope not… Reyes and Beltran are back tonight. Lets take two out of three from the Cardinals. Lets go Mets !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. Florida Met Fan Rich Says:

    I have come to the conclusion that this season is over. Now we get to watch 2 1/2 months of lousy “Playing out the string” baseball.

    The only excitement left is Who (remember him) is going where.

    Good story on Jose Reyes in USA Today

    Did anybody say, “Are you ready for some football”?

  6. Howard Says:

    So let me get this straight… Sandy Alderson is going to get rid of Beltran, our best hitter, get rid of Reyes, our best player, but keep Bay in leftfield for another 3 years after this one. Sounds like a plan.

    What I would like is for Keith Hernandez to interview Bay for a good half an hour SNY inteview and just be honest and hard hitting in the questions and ask pertinent questions as to why Bay believes he cannot compete at the Major League level anymore. I would like questions like ‘Are you concerned that this might not just be a very long slump?’, and ‘What is your explanation as to why you just cannot hit anymore?’. ‘’Do you think it is mental or physical?’

    I know guys like Irish Mike do not like me always talking about Bay but I have never seen a good baseball players career fall apart so quickly, and so completely. Can anyone think of a player who has fallen this drastically in such a short period of time?

  7. JoMama Says:

    Without Reyes, Wright, Ike and Johan this is sadly but not surprisingly, a .500 ballclub - at best. I’ve relegated myself to this situation and while it blows to watch a team in “sell mode” at least it’s exciting to see what new guys we’ll get in the sale and look forward to next year (or realistically, 2013). What did we really expect with Pelf as our “ace” and the injuries we’ve sustained? I mean, realistically, if no one got hurt, we had Santana to begin the season and either Bay, Pagan or Turner/Evans/Tejada/etc - had/continued a breakout year, we’d be in the thick of things. That plus the Braves and Phils are having fantastic seasons = yet another miserable Mets season. Oh well, we’re used to it.

    But since you mentioned Bay, I have to agree 100% that this dude is a complete and utter waste of space (been saying it since May) and that there’s nothing he provides for us in this lineup. Send him down. Jake is probably crying in his coffee right now but his best friend has no business playing at the major league level. He sucks. Nothing Jake says is going to change things but I’m sure he’ll find some obscure facts that make his ugly slide better than it is (take the last few day games, multiply it by 3, take one night game from two weeks ago and a week from June and he’s hitting .320 with 20 RBI’s and two HR’s - the guys is SICK!). He’s worse than anyone else in the lineup, particularly because of the money he’s due.

  8. KMac Says:

    I’m trying to stay positive, or is it I’m trying to kid myself….anyway in the last 23 games the Mets are 12 - 11. 15 of those games were against 1st place teams (at the time) and they played them all without Ike and David and half of them without Jose and a couple without Carlos. I was going to joke that they also played half of those games without Bay, but I didn’t want to get into the middle of that “discussion.”

    Anyway, that does give some hope when Carlos and Jose return tonight and David soon. Guys like Turner and Tejada had good runs that kept the team above water, but you can’t rely on them in the long run (at least not yet.)

    That’s my story and I’m sticking with it, at least for now.

    Let’s Go Mets!

  9. IrishMike Says:

    No Howard (and your other screen name JoMama) - knock yourself out talking about the same thing over and over and over and over again in order to point out to us what we all already know - that Bay sucks. And your “let’s have Keith Hernandez get on the Mets TV network and act like a dick to a current Met to satisfy me” is a surefire winner - I can’t believe that hasn’t happened yet considering how much good that would do for all involved.

    Oh and “Can anyone think of a player who has fallen this drastically in such a short period of time?” - please. Hell it’s happened with recent Mets - hello Mo Vaughn, Robbie Alomar and Carlos Delgado. It’s happening right now at an even worse level with Adam Dunn and Jayson Werth. There is nothing new here. But keep talking about it - your daily Jason Bay rants are not boring and repetitive but wonderfully enlightening.

  10. Fort Greene Met Fan Says:

    Lol@IM—when people constantly look for a reason to stay angry, they generally find one.

    Yep, Jason Bay sucks at the plate—but that’s not exactly “Man Bites Dog” at this late date, is it? Is this supposed to be some sort of newsflash that will awe us with its incisiveness? Last time I checked, everybody here already knows that Bay can’t hit AND already knows what everyone else here THINKS about that fact. So please, let’s keep the whining going. God forbid we could talk about something interesting.

    Anyone want to nominate another topic? How about Duda’s mythological hitting ability or Tejada’s great catch last night?

    PS: I love when people say we should trade Bay or other players that have NO TRADE VALUE. I am sure that if Sandy Alderson could get half a bag of balls for Bay or Pelfrey or whomever, he would have already done it.

  11. Howard Says:

    Mike, first of all, I am definitely not JoMama.

    Secondly, Mo Vaughn was out of baseball when we got him and he was done already. Robbie Alomar’s career was sliding already when we got him, and Carlos Delgado was good for us for a few years. He was not nearly in his prime when we got him but he produced and was the key hitter in the lineup on playoff teams.

    Now, do you have any good examples?

    And also, rather than writing about me and what I write, why not write something that we all here in the blog can find interesting to read.

  12. IrishMike Says:

    Okay Howard:

    “first of all, I am definitely not JoMama” - too bad, he seems reasonably bright.

    “Mo Vaughn was out of baseball when we got him and he was done already” - oh so now you are adding conditions to your original question.

    “Carlos Delgado was good for us for a few years” - yep, before falling off drastically which was your original question before you added conditions ex post facto.

    “Robbie Alomar’s career was sliding already when we got him” - Really?! Let’s see, the season before he came to the Mets he had career highs in Batting Average, Slugging, OPS, OPS+, his 2nd highest OBP and came in 4th in the MVP voting, his highest placing ever. Explain to us how that represents a career on the slide?

    “Now, do you have any good examples?” - yes those above and again - Dunn and Werth. Refute those.

    “rather than writing about me and what I write, why not write something that we all here in the blog can find interesting to read. ” - I haven’t written about your Bay nonsense in weeks if not months. You brought my name into your post. Don’t want me to react? Don’t bring up my name. Trust me - in general I work as hard as possible to ignore you.

  13. CowCrusher Says:

    Is Wright still in Pt. St. Lucie?
    The Bisons are in the ‘Cuse for the next 3 days with a double header tomorrow (yesterday’s game was rained ou) I will be going tonight and maybe tomorrow. I wonder if David is on an accelerated return and will play some AAA ball before heading down to Shea 2.0.

  14. Florida Met Fan Rich Says:

    Cowcrusher no he is not…..going from PSL to meet the mets in Miami

  15. the dude formerly known as bill l. Says:

    I’m off to Citi with the kids tonight for our first Mets game of the year. It’s a beautiful day for it, and the kids are psyched as hell. Mainly about the possibility of cotton candy, to be sure, but I’ll take it. Me, I’ve got my scorebook at the ready, and just looking forward to Joes and Carlos’s return and to seeing Dillon Gee in person. Oh yeah, and it’s Ike Davis bobblehead night.
    Let’s go Mets.

  16. JoMama Says:

    I like today’s lineup. Finally not AAA.

  17. HowardSecretlyLovesBay Says:

    Howard, you are hilarious. You make an argument and when it’s refuted, you try and change your argument. I’m guessing you are a big hit at parties.

    JoMama the Clown, you still don’t understand and never will. But since everybody is enjoying the Bay “discussion” today, I’ll say it one last time. Bay isn’t going to the bench for any significant period of time and isn’t tradeable. Since the Mets aren’t going anywhere this season, it makes no sense to bench him. The team needs to keep sending him out there and hoping he figures something out. I trumpeted his numbers when he was hot to point out benching him at that point would be ridiculous. Since you, Howard and BrooklynBill were bashing him every day, I took the other side and defended him. My favorite part of your Bay Bashing was when you guys killed him for going 1-5 on the night he hit the first Mets Grand Slam in two years, then followed that up by complaining about an “empty” 2-4 the next game.

    I will never cry over Jason Bay, I’ll just hope he turns it around, because he’s going to be here this year and next year in all probability. What’s really funny is how much you guys whine about him.

    Don’t forget to load your flower with water to squirt at the kids during the party!

  18. ProfessorReyes Says:

    Dude! Son is going to the game tonight with his dad, they are about 2 rows in, in Bay territory. If you’ve got the binocs, look for him, he’s 15, almost 6′5″ and wearing a red Colbert Nation hat! Stay cool, dude.

    If you see him walking around, feel free to walk right up to him and say you know him from BMF! :-)

    I’ve only been on BMF since he posted my son’s pic just after the last game Glavine “pitched” in 2007, but I don’t remember us all sniping at each other like this, even in the days of Lippy.
    I think we’re all frustrated as hell and looking for answers, but at times like this I try to remind myself, “no explanations, no excuses.” Take it for what it is but do NOT accept underperformance, undermanagement, or undergeneralmanagement. It’s a long hot season. When we’re eliminated I hope we’re all still friends and remember this is one of the sanest blogs out there.

  19. ProfessorReyes Says:

    p.s. I think BMF is right about Pagan leading off. Dropped to the 5-hole (tonight) or 2-hole I think he feels better with somebody on and bugging the pitcher.

    Want to see what Gee does against this lineup, I expect him to step up, it’s a great humid night for a pitcher if they can be “one with the sweat.”

  20. CowCrusher Says:

    Thanks for the info…..I think Gary and Keith mentioned last night but did not sound so sure. Anyway, I am off to see the rest of the Bisons play while Dude gets to see the “A~list” ones. :-)

  21. BrooklynBill Says:

    Guys…we all saw this coming didn’t we? Cutting Ollie P and Castillo was the worst thing to happen for Bay…he automatically became the new whipping boy and let’s be honest, it’s not like it’s unwarranted. Bay bashing has become a sport! Get on the bandwagon. The guy cashed in and now he’s checked out. That’s what annoys me more than anything else.

    What about Carlos Baerga? He certainly fell off a cliff fast.

    Going to the game tomorrow nite! My first of the year…not expecting Beltran to be in uniform.

  22. JoMama Says:

    Jake the Joke - you truly are delusional. One day “we’re not in contention” so just throw Bay out there, the next it’s “he’s hitting for power” again so he should remain in the lineup even though he was still batting close to the Mendoza.
    Anyone who argues doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I’m frankly tired of your asinine reasoning so I’m taking the high road and will vow to never bring him up again - UNLESS it’s to reply to someone else’s comments. Keep thinking that you’re some sort of baseball/Mets guru because the more you insult others with your supposed knowledge, the dumber you sound.

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