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Root For Your League!!!
ATTENTION MET FANS: It’s an elementary baseball rule that you root for your league in the WS.
I realize many of the new jack baseball fans are likely unaware of this unwritten rule but let me assure you baseball’s “unwritten rule book” has this one in BOLD.
Exceptions can be made in extreme cases such as your bitter rival is playing a feel good story that came out of the other league but let it be known the NYY and their unlimited payroll cannot count as a feel good story.
BMF is shocked and appalled by the amount of Met fans who say they’ll be rooting for the yankees. Sorry but I have a hard time calling you all “Real” Met fans.
In my opinion “Real” Met fans HATE the yankees. Why?
• Because they overshadow us in our own town.
•Because they spend unlimited money to give themselves an unfair advantage over the rest of the sport.
• Because tourists buy about 1/2 the tickets sold to yankee games in any given year
• Because every Tom, Dick and Harriet who moves here from somewhere else suddenly becomes a rabid yankee fan
• and in case you forgot THEY BEAT US IN THE 2000 WORLD SERIES!!!
If you think the Wilpons will be inspired to compete by the yanks winning it all you’re wrong. We have a better shot of the Wilpons shaking things up if the Phils win back to back WS with exactly the kind of team the Mets are trying to field.
BMF will be rooting LOUD & PROUD for the Phillies to beat the yanks and you know what… I think they’re gonna do it….
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October 26th, 2009 at 1:15 am
i’m not rooting for anyone. i currently hate baseball.
October 26th, 2009 at 6:31 am
Sorry, BMF, but it’s hard for me to believe YOU’RE a METS fan for rooting for the Phillies!!!!! Are youi KIDDING ME?????? The PHILLIES?????? The Yankees have NO impact on our season, playing them all of SIX times a season. We play the Phils 19 times, so it just makes MORE sense to NOT root for the bozos from Philly! C’mon BMF, come to your senses or change youir name to BPF!
October 26th, 2009 at 6:55 am
I have been a Metes fan since 69, but I have to admit I like the Phillies(of course living in Texas I dont have to see many Phillies fans…) and the Phillies play the game the way I wish the Mets did. They play Hard, make sound decisions in the front office, have seemingly great guys. In 07, THEY( not even the Rockies) ran onto the field in Colorado to help the grounds crew put the tarp out- I have never seen that before or since. I have a hard time seeing our guys(the Mets) doing that.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Did you forget, the Phillies have beaten us every year for the past three years. They have openly mocked us every year and took the time to do it immediately after winning the WS last year. NL or no NL, I’d never go against NYC. Finally, you can bet your bottom dollar that no Sox fan is rooting for the damn Yankees.
PS: No matter what, you gotta love watching Mariano pitch.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:44 am
They’re still playing baseball?
I’m not rooting for anyone.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Even if I told myself to root for the Yankees it wouldn’t work. I tried that during interleague play when I KNEW it was crucial for the Yankees to win and the Phils to lose (ah remember when we pretended the Mets were a competitive team…) yet I found myself instinctively rooting against the Yankees. Even after I caught myself I would find myself doing it again five minutes later. I just can’t root for them.
I think BMF is right about this being an age thing to some extent. I’m guessing that the Yankee rooters skew much younger than the Phillies rooters. Old men like me will by and large be rooting for the Phillies. Or more accurately rooting against the Yankees.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:54 am
I agree with the last part–The Wilpons are more likely to make significant and rational improvements to their team if a division rival wins back-to-back World Series.
A Yankee win just has them competing for backpage space in the offseason which doesn’t exactly produce the sort of moves that need to be made.
Also, I’d like the Mets to play more like the current Phillies than the Yankees. So go NL! beat those bastards from the Western League
October 26th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Couldn’t agree with you more…..The yankees have been hated longer (my whole life) than the Phillies. What has it been 3 years that the Met- Phillie rivalry has really heated up. It was always the Braves. They just got here.But the yankees and their cocky fans (not sure why- havent won anything in 9 years) walk around NY like the baseball world revolves around them. I know we have the largest payroll in the National league, but the Yankees are playing (or paying) on a different field. They can afford mistakes on contracts, where other teams mistakes cost them years. It doenst take a genius to BUY A CHAMPIONSHIP. Eventually when you spend as much as they do, you will win - JUST HOPE NOT THIS YEAR!!!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:06 am
agreed - im sorry - but in the 80s we had the Cards - the 90s the Braves were are arch rival and now the Phillies - sorry - as a 30 year old Mets fan - I dont have a team I hate like Yankee fans do the Red Sox - nope - every decade has its own rival and I still think I hate the braves more. The Mets Phillies, while a rivarly is only 2 years old - it does not make up for my 30 years of hatred for the Yankees. I dont hate the Yankees because of the 90s - i hated them in the 80s when they were bad…because they were the Yankees. If you really hate the Phillies that much after only 2 races (i dont count this year) then im sorry - you are trying to hard to pretend the Mets have a Red Sox type rival..wake up Mets fans - you are about to hear “27″ all winter long - think about it - do you really want to see the SMUG - Ive only been a Yankee fan for 5 years but im better than you attitude all winter. COME ON PHILS!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:20 am
NL all the way. GO PHILLIES!!! NL baseball: played the way the game was meant to be played.
I will hate the Phillies again in November
October 26th, 2009 at 9:28 am
you really want the phils to win back to back WS? God no……
October 26th, 2009 at 9:30 am
First off, don’t ever tell me I’m not a real Met fan, I’ve forgotten more about the Mets than you will ever know BMF.
Second, I didn’t know I had to clear my non-Met rooting interests through this jagoff website. Last time I checked, it’s a free country, and if I want to root for the Yanks, I will. They wear the NY on the jersey, Philadelphia is the pit of the earth, and if YOU were a real Met fan, and not some waffling wimp with a website, you would realize that.
So what, the Yankees beat us in the 2000 series. If you actually watched the series, you would know the Mets had plenty of opportunities to win some games, but in typical Met fashion, they blew it. You’re hatred of the Yankees is just pure little 12 year old girl jealousy.
Also, on the subject of the 2000 series, get over it already.
Apparently you haven’t really paid attention to how much money the Mets have spent on payroll. Don’t hate the Yankees because they spend it better, it just makes you look foolish. If the Mets had spent that much money and won, I’ll bet you one of those stupid General Manuel t-shirts that you wouldn’t be talking about an “unfair advantage”
Go ahead and root for the Phillies, it just further shows how far this site has fallen.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:50 am
I can give a s**t about who wins and who loses this series, it’s totally irrelevant to the fact that we should be discussing…these Mets are dangerously close to the 1977-1983 versions of the product. This discussion of who to root for (or not root for) in the WS only comes about because our team sucks…what can be done to change that???
October 26th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Bayonne Metro Fanatic…..The Mets spent big money but we also TRADED! We sacrificed players to make our team. Who have the Yankees traded?
Yankees don’t know sacrifice.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Bayonne Metroplotian Fanatic: first off, props for the line “waffling wimp with a website”–it’s a classic of alliteration, akin to Spiro T. Agnew’s denunciation of the press as”nattering nabobs of negativism.” Other than that, you can piss off. We here love this little “jagoff” of a web site, especially now that it features the latest in modern technology: the photograph.
Seriously, people can root for who they like, but I’m going with BMF, Luis, Irish, John, anthony, nick, 062, etc. here and rooting hard against the Yankees… Go Phils! We may not be able to win an all-star game, but let’s show them why they are still the “junior circuit.”
October 26th, 2009 at 10:00 am
I don’t care about any unwritten rule. I lived in Philadelphia for a year, the year they won the WS, and there is no circumstance when I would ever root for them. I may not be rooting for the Yankees to win, but I am certianly rooting for the Phillies to lose.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Three things:
Philly fans openly mock the Mets. But Yankee fans openly mock the Mets right in our face! I’d rather have the distance than seeing these idiot, retarded Yankee fans up close.
Another reason why REAL Met fans hate the Yankees - The Yankees feel that they are entitled to a World Series every year. Sure, every team wants to win, but to feel entitled just makes you look stupid. You win it if you deserve it. You don’t get the world series title just because you’re a Yankee. That’s a child’s mentality.
The only way I can enjoy the world series…Every game, full of Yankee errors, Philies capitalize on the errors therefore the Philies win but they don’t really earn it. They just get lucky.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:06 am
How come a yankee fan can come to Met ballark,wear their gear without the fear of getting beer dumped on, spat on, or even get knifed!!!!?????
No TRUE Mets fan could root for them,, period .And Iwould expect the same from True Yankee fan if the situation was reversed.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:07 am
I am convinced that the best post in the history (or future) of brooklynmetsfan.com has just been written by Bayonne Metroplotian Fanatic on October 26th, 2009 at 9:30 am.
Everyone of his (or her) points came to my mind when i was reading todays blog entry.
I’ve been a Mets fan for 28 years. Im not a “new” fan, and I’ve never had one problem with the Yankees (or to tell you the truth their fans). If any Mets fan HATES the Yankees, its purely out of JEALOUSY for their history and the business sense of their owner(s). Jealousy is a sign of weakness.
You hate Yankees (and Braves and Phillies and Red Sox) fans for being arrogant? in the 80s Mets fans were as arrogant as the team was. If anyone had anything to say about the blue and orange, they were dead wrong and we let them know it. Fans of winning teams have earned their arrogance. Trust me, we’ll all be a bunch of a-holes when the Mets start winning again.
And now you’re upset that tourists and visitors are going to Yankee games? Have you just run out of things to b*tch about? You spend your energy being upset about tourists going to Yankee games? Should they stay away from the Empire State Building and Statue of Liberty as well? Like it or not, Yankee Stadium (new or old) is a LANDMARK.
You hate the Yankees for beating the Mets in the Series in 2000? If I remember correctly, it wasnt 2 weeks ago that you were rooting for the Dodgers. They beat the Mets in the ‘88 LCS! You rooted for them! Maybe it is YOU who isn’t a real Mets fan!!
I am concerned over the integrity of this web site.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
PS. In case you haven’t noticed I am a little offended to have the level of my dedication to the team questioned because of who I do or do not root for when the Mets are not playing.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Mrs. Butterworth, I am standing on my desk, applauding you in “Dead Poets Society” fashion. O Captain, my Captain!
All you Philly rooters should be ashamed of yourselves. They are the Mets biggest rival right now, not the Yankees. Although I’m not sure a 70ish win team even has a rival, maybe Montclair State.
I implore you, do not drink the Kool Aid being poured here!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:20 am
cowcrusher: what are you saying? do you think that we fans should be physically harming other fans who come into the ballpark dressed in their team’s apparel? It’s not a gang war–it’s just a game. It’s kind of fun, actually. There’s nothing like going to a Yankees-Mets game, with the dueling chants of “Let’s Go Yankees” and “Yankees Suck” vying for prominence. Feel free to give them a hard time verbally, but beyond that it’s a bit ridiculous.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Personally I’m not judging anyone for who they root for in this disaster WS scenario and do not believe that either position proves whether or not one is a “true” Met fan. I just know where I stand.
PS I don’t think a post filled with schoolyard insults is remotely a contender for best post ever.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:30 am
IrishMike, thanks for the input buddy, have a great day.
The funny thing is, I see a lot of Met fans saying Yankee fans would do the same thing. I disagree, Yankee fans don’t give a crap about Met fans one way or the other. We are just the annoying little brother with a runny nose whining all the time.
DON’T DRINK THE KOOL-AID!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:51 am
I think Bayonne Metroplotian Fanatic should meet IrishMike by the flag pole after school.
I could be wrong, but i dont think Bayonne Metroplotian Fanatic’s post was written to refute your statements IrishMike, but BMF’s.
Bayonne Metroplotian Fanatic’s argument was clear, concise, and logical. It is the same problem I have with all Met’s fans lately.
All they do is complain about other teams, for reasons that don’t make any sense.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:54 am
What’s a Metroplotian?
October 26th, 2009 at 11:01 am
I’m rooting against the Yankees so my tax dollars don’t have to pay for another parade……
dave nyc
October 26th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Mrs. B - I agree, I assumed Metro was speaking to BMF. I was just clarifying for the record that I personally don’t consider my pro-Phillies position the only one that qualifies you as a “true” Met fan. Many here and elsewhere seem to believe that their position is the only allowable one.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Bayonne Metro fan nailed it.
I know most Mets fans are local to the NY metro area and might not have all that many run ins with philly fans, so your perspective might be a bit skewed. For that I, and Mets nation at large, forgive your misguided intentions.
But let me set the record straight. I live in Northeastern PA, about 2 hours from Philly and about a 65/35 split of philly/new york fans. About 15% of that 35 are Mets fans. I am a f**king rarity out here. And I hear it from yankee and philly fans everywhere I go, and I spend plenty of time in NY/NJ, hearing it from yankee fans, and I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt: Philadelphia Philly fans are the absolute scourge of the earth, true to their city, absolutely classless, hateful individuals, far FAR worse than any yankee fan could ever be.
Face facts, there is NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING that a Met fan could truly say to a Yankee fan in terms of their baseball teams. They have 26 world championships, are the textbook example of a successful, storied franchise (regardless of how they get their wins) and it is unlikely that Met fans will ever, ever, ever be in their position. At best, we can take it year by year and hope to have one single isolated season to brag about.
But philly fans…don’t get me started. I haven’t even heard a philly fan say the word “phillies” since last november. they refer to their team only, i repeat, ONLY, as “WFC”. there is nothing, there could never be anything, worse than that team and that group of scumbag fans being able to amend that acronym to “B2BWFC”. I will literally leave the country, denounce the existence of baseball and champion cricket or some other third world snooze fest as my personal pass time.
Rooting for the Yankees, at this point, is as close to “hometown pride” as we can get. Rooting for the phillies is blasphemy, it is heresy. Screw the two leagues, rooting for the NL is nice, but not at the expense of selling your Mets fan soul to the rotten putrid corpse of a city down I95. The teams may only have a rivalry thats heated up in the last 3 years, but Philadelphia has been the ugly, smelly armpit of the Northeast for centuries, looking up at NY with envy and disdain, and to sink so low as to put our support behind that team would make us no better than they.
How much more of our identity can we lose? Our ballpark is a shrine to a team and a player who never represented the blue and orange, who never made Flushing shake and roar, and whose ownership couldn’t see the value and loyalty inherent to NY fans. Our team is mentally weak, fundamentally devoid and our leadership couldn’t run a hot dog stand, even with all the money in the world. Lets not give away the last f**king bastion of Mets pride we have, each other, the fans, by rooting for the Phillies.
I died a little bit every time I had to watch the Mets wear those red hats, in Philly no less. This outcry of support for the Phils is like one big, stinky red hat on the bleeding wound that is our franchise. Can we please have some common sense and some pride and just pull for the Yankees to get #27. The Yankees, though it may seem as such, are NOT our peers. For 6 games a year and maybe an october/november here or there, we get to act as much, but the Yankees are on their own level, and their arrogant fans, tourists and bandwagoneers though they may be, are entitled to rub it in our faces. But the phillies, the phillies are our peers, they are our division rivals and they are 120 miles or so away, mocking us, calling us out even when we’re so far gone as to be unseen and unspoken of by the national press. The phillies are our enemy, the bane of our existence. The yankees are our next door neighbor who play music too late at night and brag about their new lawnmower. Lets get this straight.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:22 am
The anti-Yankees arguments here are pretty convincing, but try as I may I just cannot make myself root for some punk upstart dump of a city in Pennsylvania to beat a team from New York. I’m sticking with my city.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Why root for anyone? Watch if you want, but you don’t have to root.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:42 am
allhailtheduck, you are tops with me.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:45 am
IrishMike - thanks for the response.
If you check out BMFs post, it states “BMF is shocked and appalled by the amount of Met fans who say they’ll be rooting for the yankees. Sorry but I have a hard time calling you all “Real” Met fans.”
He’s been poisoned by hate. He’s lost his way.
i think i should start a new site along with bayonne MF and allhailtheduck. Our posts were rational and logical. What do you say boys/girls?
:)
October 26th, 2009 at 11:53 am
allhailtheduck - An extremely flawed post. You live 2 hours from Philly and will use your experiences in your burgh interacting with non Philadelphians as an indication of what Philadelphians are like? That would be like saying that the actions of Mets fans just north of Trenton are indicative of all NY Met fans. Is that fair? Really now. Is it? Would you want all NYers to be judged that way? Especially the Mets fan?
October 26th, 2009 at 11:54 am
I totally agree with Adam, Mrs. Butterworth, Allhailtheduck and everyone else who said they could not in good consciousness root for the Phils.
The Met’s have the same opportunity to buy players like the Yankees and you wouldn’t be complaining if they did. Ownerships doesn’t spend the money because they don’t want to win as much as the Yankees even though they say they do.
No one can say what a “true Met” fan should feel or who they should hate. The Met’s are my favorite team in any sport and have been since day one. The Yankees are not the enemy … the Phillies are … they are disrespectful … they hate us … and you want them to win? I’m a New Yorker. I don’t want to see the Phillies celebrate back to back. I’d rather have the crown in New York.
If you’re going to root for the Phils, you might as well root for the Eagles to beat the Giants next week.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
You can’t crush the yanks for spending the money. It’s their money, let them spend it as they please. They have to pay a ton of revenue sharing with teh league anyway. Don’t forget which team has the second highest payroll and where they finished.
Rooting for the phillies is awful. They are the Mets nuber one in division rival who talk so much sht about the Mets it’s ridiculous. I know it’s already been said, but who do you think the yanks fan’s root for between a red sox and Mets game? The Mets, b/c they are playing the number one division rival.
Also, if BMF is really from Brooklyn, I thought you would have a little more NYC pride. Even though I don’t live in the city anymore, I would root for the yanks even if they were playing any other NL team in the series as long as it wasn’t the Mets.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
The last time I noticed, it don’t matter who the hell any of us root for in the Series. The outcome will be what will be.
And no matter who we “root” for, and no matter what the outcome, I’m pretty sure none of will be celebrating.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Quick quiz: Which network is running a show entitled “Monsters vs. Aliens” starting 8:00 pm on Wednesday night?
If you said “NBC” you are correct. But Fox’s coverage of “Aliens and Monsters” starts 1/2 hour earlier and goes on all week. As EG notes, no matter who we ‘root’ for…I’m pretty sure none of us will be celebrating.”
October 26th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
I’m rooting for a non-lethal outbreak of the flu on both teams and the world series is canceled. I’ll passively root for the Phoolies. Very passively. You might even say barely. I’m not going to say someone is a real Met fan or not a real Met fan on who they root for in this series. I’d never judge someones pride in nyc on whether they root for the yankees or not. I’m born and raised in Brooklyn and that sort of attitude that the yankees are the only team for New Yorkers or you need to root for the Yankees when they are in the world series drives me nuts. We all suffer either way. I will say this, if you don’t live here you don’t have to face obnoxious Yankee fans everyday or read little digs in the paper against the Mets even when they are not playing. It gets tiring. It is right in your face everyday. Maybe I would think different if I lived in Philly but I don’t.
Whatever happens, it doesn’t change the fact that our team is on the verge of becoming an unmitigated disaster, if it isn’t already. I think someone mentioned that 92 loss teams don’t have rivals. How true is that! Our rival is the Nats right now. We only finished a 11 games in front of a team that was threatening at one point to break the ‘62 Mets loss record.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Mark Herrmann has an interesting observation in his column in today’s Newsday. He writes about the experience of being a Mets fan for this world series and says: “Which side do you root for, those hated guys or the other hated guys? This is going to be one tough week for Mets fans. A Yankees-Phillies World Series offers no good options or moral victories. It’s the team that has tormented you intensely for the past few years against the team that has tormented you consistently forever. Historians will conjure 1950, when the Yankees, with rookie pitcher Whitey Ford, swept the Phillies Whiz Kids. But the real parallel ought to be 1986, when the Mets played the Red Sox and Yankees fans had the same kind of choice: migraine or root canal?”
Sounds about right.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
I would totally read a blog by Mrs B and Bayonne Met Fan (Hudson County represent!). Although I do have to say with Fenway met Fan, Brooklyn hatred of Yankees do run deep, so we can technically give a pass to BMF for this reasoning.
I have said that I like the way the Phils have run their team. I have not given them the credit I suppose they deserve now for making the playoffs three years in a row but also the WS 2 years in a row. I usually side with the NL - our rivalries do not run as deep as say the Sox/Yanks. Now for Yankee-hating, well my Yankee hating is pretty independent of my Mets-love. It has nothing to do with payroll or luxury taxes — it’s the buffoons who support them, the blow hards who run the organization and the overall ballwashing by the media they get. Since I’d rather the Mets have a better drafting system, slotting process and more know-how, I would say I’d technically side with the Phils in that respect…
Howver, I have decided to support my local teams that are non-baseball. I am a Rangers fan, I am a Jets fan. I will pretend that baseball does not exist and will not pay attention to the dog-and-pony show of the World Series.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
I understand and agree with both side of the argument…no matter what it’s a no win situation for us.
I hate both fans…but I hate the Yankees roster more…(i heard that Nick Swisher is already signed up for Tool Academy 7).
Other than Bret “the Hit Woman” Myers and Hammels (who just comes across as a whinny little bitch), I like the guys on the Phils roster.
I reality, I’m rooting for a quick series so the Hot Stove can begin.
I’m rooting for the Mets to wake up and sign Lackey and Marquis or trade for Roy Halladay and stil sign either Lackey or Marquis. Send a message to Pelf, Oh’Pea and Maine…you don’t perform you don’t make the rotation.
worry about LF after the pitching is taken care of…there is no way that Bay or Holliday are higher priorities than pitching. Both those guys are gonna be over paid and won’t meet expectations. I’d rather have a dependable Rotation and sign Dye or Guerrero or Magglio Ordonez for a bargain contract, Than have get locked into a big inflated contract and hope that Maine, Oh’Pea and Pelf all will “figure it out” and pitch to expectations.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Keepin It Real - au contraire, mon assuming, assumption accusing ami…I went to college 30 minutes away from philly, spent tons of time in varying states of consciousness and sobriety at temple university during my 5 year collegiate career and still make it down to philly for the occasional side-hustle money-making affair or social gathering (and Mets/Phils games). I have plenty of first hand experience with the city of Philadelphia, its residents and fans beyond its city limits. Am I biased? of course. but ill- or under-informed I am not.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
This is by far the most interesting day ever on this board.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
One last thing on the original post:
“I realize many of the new jack baseball fans are likely unaware of this unwritten rule but let me assure you baseball’s “unwritten rule book” has this one in BOLD.”
Who’s Jack?
Secondly, by the guidelines set in your “unwritten” rule book, does that mean you rooted for the Patriots against the Giants in the Super Bowl? If it does, then you sir, are just flat out shameful.
I propose a coup! I’ll take over starting tomorrow, and you won’t even have to change the initials.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
I HATE the MF’n yankees more than any team in sports
If you say the Yankes arent the enemy of the lowly Mets than youre not paying attention
GO PHILZ!
October 26th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
stop hating everyone and your problems will be solved. the mets ressemble the phillies in several ways, so if the phillies can accomplish 2 in a row, surely the mets can find their way into the series, right? it really comes down to this: i figured we were irrelevant to you.. The yankees are everything thats wrong with baseball. the yankees will never go away.. so why not root for their agony. if you’re a proud mets fan, youll never be 2nd place to philadelphia.. but if you let the yanks take controll of the current NY sports scene, you’ll have no dignity left. you share the same oxygen and you want to be suffocated by entitled yanks fans?
hop on board or dont, but i feel like mets fans will benifit a small percentage more if the phils repeat rather than the evil empire ruining baseball for another 10 years. our rivalry wont last forever, but NY will always be split by 2 teams
October 26th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
To the “new jack BMF”…
In the immortal words of John, Paul, George, and Ringo (but definately not Kirk)…
“They say you want a revolution”
October 26th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Explain to me how they are the enemy?
Do they say bad things about the Mets and their fans?
Did they pee on your dog?
Hating someone because they are good at something, really good at something, isn’t hate, it’s jealousy.
The Mets are NY, the Yankees are NY. Philadelphia is the true enemy
October 26th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
“The Yankees buy their rings”, I love that one.
The Yankees sign guys like A-Rod, Damon, Mark Teixera and AJ Burnett
The Mets sign guys like Luis Castillo, Oliver Perez, Fernando Tatis, and Joey Cora.
So its obvious here that the logical thing to do is hate the Yankees.
October 26th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
The Yankees buy their rings?
How about Pedro, Wagner, Putz, Delgado, Johan, and Beltran?
Youre going to tell me that those guys were really brought on with the intention of being paid to sit on the DL?
October 26th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
WOW, waking up on the west coast means having to spend quite some time to read all the posts. Here’s what I’m rooting for the in the World Series:
A) A line drive to Cole Hamels face that shatters his jaw so he can’t speak. This idiot wasn’t ready for the season because he “had a lot of offseason commitments,” including appearances and autograph signings. When asked about them, he responded that “it was a tough economy and a way to make a buck.” Yep, another starving pro athlete trying to put food on the table.
2) Every announcer who praises Derek Jeter incessantly for routine plays to start choking immediately and only be able to stop when away from a microphone. Throwing the ball to catch a runner who is far off base is not a GREAT PLAY THAT ONLY HE WOULD MAKE. It’s a routine play every shortstop would handle. He does enough good things, save the John Madden/Brett Favre blowjobs for when he dives into the stands or something like that.
D) The Wilpons to watch the WS and realize the Mets will never be like either the yankees or the Phillies as long as they are in charge and make the decision to fire the GM, fire the manager, fire the medical staff, then sell the team.
LET’S GO METS (IN 2010)!
October 26th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
I Agree with Irish Mike and others, it is against all my instinct to root for the Spankees. As filthy and slimy Phillies and Philthy fans are, they are a flash in the pan, 10,000 losses and neanderthal fans, they will be the next pet rock or other passing trend. However the Spankees with 26 rings with 1 coming soon are always in our face, always look down and laugh at Met fans and their team represents everything that makes us root against them: false sense of entitlement, arrogance, unfettered spending, not mention some of their key players are admitted PED users. I spoke to my Yankee friends and they would NEVER root for the Mets. I also agree, most satisfying would be 4 game, error filled sweep by Philthys. However, after seeing Angels melt under Bronx lights, I doubt the Yankees will lose.
October 26th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Fun stuff today. I can’t root for the Phillies. But every time I say I’m going to root for the Yankees, I throw up in my mouth a little bit. Watching this WS is going to be about as enjoyable as my annual vist to Dr. Jellyfinger. I guess I’ll just close my eyes and go to a happy place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hHscRk032I
October 26th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
I remember when the Mets were the big dogs in town, not the Yankees. Mets out drew the Yankees. A lot more Mets hats than Yankees hats around. Seems a very very long time ago now. Younger fans probably don’t even know it used to be like that. Maybe the Mets need to take responsibility for fielding more crappy teams than good ones while the Yankess have been on a roll. No way any Met fan should root for the trash talkking Phillies, who called the Mets out. You can hate the Yankees, but they aren’t real rivals for the Mets. We aren’t in the WS enough for it to be a rivalry. Hating because of jealousy is piss poor. I don’t like the Yankees since they are always in the news and it seems they win all the time but I hate the Phillies and the Braves since they have been part keeping the Mets down and talking about it. I don’t really think the Yankees ever even think about the Mets. the fans on the other hand are a diffeent story. They suck.
Bottom line though, I am rooting for NYC over Philly any day, in any sport.
Yo… Blondiesjake…I’ll take letter D in a NY minute.
October 26th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Bayonne Met Fan and Mrs. Butterworth- you have no intelligence, regardless of who you are “rooting” for in this series.
As a Mets fan, I hate the Yankees. HATE the Yankees. This hatred is not at all associated with jealousy. I enjoy being a Mets fan, the ups and downs make the winning that much sweeter, I am in no way “jealous” of the Yankees, I merely despise what the team stands for. The Yankees are a plague to MLB, end of story.
If anything the “jealous” fans would be those rooting for the Phillies. The Phillies are a franchise that has struggled for years (much like the Mets), only to build their team the right way and find hard-earned success (where the Mets have fallen short). I am not saying I love the Phillies, but they are a recent phenomena; possibly even a “fad” rivalry.
Now the Phillies have only been relevant for 3 years. 3 years and everybody’s all worked up over them? THEY WERE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT BEFORE 2006 AND WILL BE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT SOON ENOUGH. Let them have their moment, who cares?
New York City Pride? Give me a f*ckin break. I’ve lived in NYC for my entire life and couldn’t give a damn about NYC pride. What am I supposed to be proud of? The taxes? The obscene prices? The NYPD? No thanks. Saying you are rooting for the Yankees due to NYC Pride makes you just as bad as those “obnoxious” Phillie fans who “f*ckin hate New York.”
I am rooting for the Phillies because the Yankees are the most deplorable franchise in sports history. I want nothing more than dejected Yankee fans on the subways and buses, disappointing headlines in the NY tabloids, and the ubiquitous feeling of failure hanging over their organization for at least one more year.
October 26th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Wow!! Have we stirred up one heck of “turd-storm” here!! Ok, that’s good… we’re talking .getting out in the open …Dr. Phil would be proud.
To be honest, I can never, ever, support the yanks. I come from a long lineage of Brooklyn Dodger fans (Yes, I’m from Brooklyn) and my grandparents and my cousins, as heartbroken as they were, embraced the Mets in ‘ 62.. and, never even thought about becoming yankee fans, lest they be damned.
Yes, there is no love lost for the Phils. They have almost as equally scummy fanbase as the yanks… but pound for pound , the yankee fan base ranks a 100 times higher on the “Scum-nometer” !!
As I said before, “the Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend”… in this case I am reluctantly rooting for the Phils… for some of the same reasons already mentioned by others.
To formally Bill:
No, I’m not saying that we fans should lower ourselves to some type of “gang-warfare”, however, I remember as a kid having some kid pull a switchblade on me at Yankee Stadium (20+ years ago) because he found out I was a Mets fan. I was there because I wanted to see the stadium after it got renovated and went with my neighbors who were rabid yankee fans. The yanks lost to the lowly Texas Rangers.
I’m just saying if you go to yankee stadium wearing a Mets hat and they are not playing the Mets, you are taking your life into your own hands, Security, or some of the NYPD are not going to help you too quickly, if ever.
To me, the typical yankee fan is the likes of Artie Lange from the Stern Show. A big bloated asswipe that truly believes the crap of how they are “America’s Team”. This goes beyond a comic’s “Schtick”. They truly believe it.
Also, I find downright lame to say you root for “New York”!! Those are Weasel Words. Only a scum sucking politician would say that. Why bother having two teams? And Two different Leagues?
You all can do what you want, but I have said my peace. I can only hope that half the Yankees starting line-up all find themselves on the DL; the same way the Mets this year did before Wednesday night.
Let’s go Filths!!!!
Yankees Suck!
October 26th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
cowcrusher: great story. while every franchise has violent, obnoxious, even criminal fans, I think that type of bullsh*t threatening behavior has gone on more in their stadium over the years than in ours. It’s a huge generalization, I know, but I think we have fewer psychopathic a**holes for fans than they do.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
Thank you BMF. Rooting for the Yankees is blasphemous. It might not be appetizing to cheer for the Phillies, but as a Met fan, you have to ask yourself if you’ve ever cheered for the Yankees. Maybe the answer is yes, in which case, you’re not a Met fan. Root for the Yankees once, and you’re a Yankee fan.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
c,
Well said…it’s too easy to go over to the Dark Side e.g. “Skankeeland”.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Lifelong Fightin Phils fan here. I hate the mutts and the Yankmees. I find you pathetic mutts fans entertaining while discussing your dilemma. How many games back were you this year??….you’ll be lucky if you finish ten games better next year, which would still leave you about fifteen back.
I think your energy would be better spent trying to figure out how many of those slugs should hang around next year. Just Beltran, Wright, and Santana from what I saw. Jose…..jose jose jose…..LOL….you ppl gotta be kidding me.
Just thought I’d chime in….Thanks for the good read.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Oh yea…..if it matters…..I rooted for the Mets in 2K. No self respecting “baseball” fan can root for the Yankmees. Hope that helps…..Go Phils !!
October 27th, 2009 at 8:41 am
This is quite a quandry. I live south of Princeton, NJ in TOTAL Phillie country. Red EVERYWHERE you look. I still proudly wear my Met Orange and blue. I will never, EVER root for the Phillies. I have the Yanks too and cannot root for them either, but my Phillie hatred runs much deeper. Especially when in the back of my mind I’m thinking that it should be us and not them who is becoming a dynasty. That discussion is for another post. In any event, I will not watch any of this series. It’s like a kick in the gut and pain will not go away. More than likely we will have to endure yet another Yankee march down the canyon of heroes. I will ignore that too.
October 27th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Mark
Any time you want to sit down to an intelligence test, you let me know. I’ll even spot you 500 points just for spelling your name right.
How are the Yankees a “plague to the MLB” but somehow the Mets, who have done all the same things, just done them wrong, aren’t? Pick your dress up Mark, your ignorance is showing.
If you hate NY so much, why do you live there? Sorry NY is such a burden on your life, and remember your fond comments about the NYPD when you need one.
First question: Who is buried in Grants Tomb?
October 27th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Ok, so I can’t really tell Mets fans who to root for (or rather, against). I will say this though: in Philly (where I lived either in or near the city for my entire life, until just recently) we resent the fact that New York is always placed above us in all things (culture, tourism, national attention, sports, etc.) by pretty much everyone who isn’t from Philly. While we really don’t like the Mets, the Yankees actually represent to us exactly this feeling of resentment and they, or rather their fans, treat the fans of other teams extremely arrogantly. Guys like A-Rod don’t improve the image much.
As far as the Phils-Mets rivalry goes, I probably don’t represent all Phils fans here, but I want the Mets to come back strong next year. I like having that rivalry, that intensity, that nervousness, and yeah, even the hate. I want to beat the Mets, but not this year’s Mets, it was hardly even fair. You guys didn’t deserve what happened this year.
Generally, I always root against the Yankees, no matter who they play. I hate the bandwagon fans that you find everywhere and the sense that the Series was created for them to win. I don’t like that they don’t really develop talent anymore (sorry, not sold on Jaba Chamberlain) - very parasitic in that sense. I rooted for the Mets in 2000, for the Braves in ‘96 and ‘99. It hurt, but not as much as it hurt when the Yankees won.